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Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:22 am to
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:22 am to
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I think there is some connection between Ren and Luke, but I don't think he's his master. Ren's style is far too reckless to have been properly trained. If Luke had properly taught him how to build a lightsaber, then he wouldn't have that type of blade.



Perhaps the new films are going to show that other Jedi-types survived the purge. The canon cartoon series leaves room for this. [Clone Wars had multiple "Sith-types" running around that haven't necessarily had their stories ended, and Rebels (and its associated comic book, Kanan) have a couple Jedi post-purge.]

It's quite possible this bad guy Ren was initially trained by someone like that way out in the Outer Rim or something, but it would make sense to have an association with Luke or someone like that.

Disney is definitely going at Star Wars on the multimedia front with novels, comics (putting their other big property, Marvel, to work), and tv series. Just wonder if they will overlap with the new films.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:39 am to
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Just wonder if they will overlap with the new films.
Don't know if they will overlap, but I know they are supposed to fill in some of the missing pieces. For example there is supposed to be a comic/graphic novel that focuses on C3P0 and falls somewhere in the gap between Jedi and Awakens. It is supposed to explain, among other things, why he shows up in Awakens with the red arm.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:08 pm to
Really good article from Wired today

LINK
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:42 pm to
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Don't know if they will overlap


"Overlap" was probably the wrong word, since everything so far timeline-wise seems to be filling in gaps elsewhere in the series or shortly after "Jedi."

I more meant if they will refer to in detail or in passing to some of the characters shown in the other media. Specifically, were some of these other Jedi/Sith that were shown to survive the purge still active throughout the galaxy (obviously off screen in the original trilogy) to teach new apprentices?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:30 pm to
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Perhaps the new films are going to show that other Jedi-types survived the purge. The canon cartoon series leaves room for this. [Clone Wars had multiple "Sith-types" running around that haven't necessarily had their stories ended, and Rebels (and its associated comic book, Kanan) have a couple Jedi post-purge.]



Yeah, I'm thinking (my opinion is changing pretty constantly) that Snoke may have once been a powerful Inquisitor that snaked his way into leading the resistance to the New Republic.

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It's quite possible this bad guy Ren was initially trained by someone like that way out in the Outer Rim or something, but it would make sense to have an association with Luke or someone like that.



I think Ren is more of an untrained prodigy who will come to Snoke's attention as the film progresses. I'm still of the opinion that the Force Awakening refers to the Force's power being amplified, and making more people Force Sensitive. I think Rey may already be Force Sensitive before the events of the film, but I don't think Finn or Ren were. Kylo I think is Leia and Han's kid, but came up short in the Force department initially due to his father's lack of it and became obsessed with gaining the power. So he studied the Force as much as he could, and eventually sought out Snoke. He joins the Knights of Ren, and takes up the name as a mantra in honor of his grandfather. He even builds his own lightsaber, which is incredibly flawed.

When he becomes Force Sensitive, he instantly has a leg up on anyone else who has been affected by the Force since he's studied it his entire life. He hunts down any others who became such, and becomes particularly obsessed with Finn when he discovers he has his grandfather's lightsaber. He may have a soft spot for Rey, but he will be relentless in hunting down Finn. As the trilogy goes forward, Ren will get more powerful and calculating along with Rey as they are trained by the respected masters. I think Ren will kill Luke in Episode VIII, leading to an incredible showdown between Ren and Rey in Episode IX.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 11:12 pm
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:57 pm to
That picture is great. So many references. C3PO in the robo suit from Aliens is my favorite though.

Or Starlord riding the Indominous Rex
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 8:00 pm
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24016 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:20 pm to
You know, that I think about it, Yoda on his death bed told Luke to pass on what he's learned to the other Skywalker. So, I wonder if Leia will have been trained in the Ways of the Force?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:26 pm to
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You know, that I think about it, Yoda on his death bed told Luke to pass on what he's learned to the other Skywalker. So, I wonder if Leia will have been trained in the Ways of the Force?



Maybe in some ways, but not in the ways of a Jedi Knight. I think this will be another subtle "frick You" to the prequels, in that not everyone who is Force Conscious needs to be a bad arse warrior. I think Leia's way in the Force will be more politically savvy than anything else and make her highly formidable in any political situation. I'm thinking Luke is in hiding convinced that knowledge of the Force can in the long term only lead to darkness, even if he himself is powerful enough to fight it off. I think Leia is the only one who really knows where he is, and Han knows where to find Leia, although they've long broke up.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 11:27 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/18/15 at 9:21 pm to
Another TV spot..check out what the storm troopers are carrying

LINK
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/18/15 at 10:01 pm to
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Another TV spot..check out what the storm troopers are carrying


That looks kind of stupid
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27587 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 2:33 pm to
I like the flame thrower, I don't particularly care for the light saber proof bludgeon.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 3:55 pm to
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I don't particularly care for the light saber proof bludgeon.


The more I think about it, it makes sense that the first order would develop an effective defense to light saber blows. It looks kinda bulky and impractical though.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22631 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 4:02 pm to
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99
I like the flame thrower, I don't particularly care for the light saber proof bludgeon.



Well storm troopers can't aim and flame throwers are more of a spray and pray weapon so that may work. The light saber bludgeon is ok I think. A good Jedi could still whoop em.

I wonder if the Falcon will be a breaking down junk pile again like on Star Wars and Empire.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27587 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:16 am to
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I wonder if the Falcon will be a breaking down junk pile again like on Star Wars and Empire.


It had better be. That was a big part of its endearing nature, and also lent a lot to who Han was. If they change it so that it is in tip top shape, then Han had better be a completely different person in reflection of that.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:23 pm to
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If they change it so that it is in tip top shape, then Han had better be a completely different person in reflection of that.
Maybe he's still a scoundrel but he just sits around and drinks and works on the Falcon all day. That's all my uncle does. His ride is tip frickin top.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22631 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:24 pm to
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Maybe he's still a scoundrel but he just sits around and drinks and works on the Falcon all day. That's all my uncle does. His ride is tip frickin top.


I miss Solo beating on the instrument panel to get her started.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9003 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:44 pm to
That spot was awesome. Loving Finn.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:13 am to










This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 9:15 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108391 posts
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:43 pm to
It will be rated PG-13: LINK
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27587 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:58 pm to
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It will be rated PG-13


I expected PG. This tells me it is going to be a little more dark than I expected, which personally I prefer.
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