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Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:27 pm to ell_13
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There are rumors that it's Plagueis. Palpatine's mentor who he said he killed.
I really don't think that's the case, especially if he's anywhere near as large as he is in the Hologram.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:27 pm to OMLandshark
one positive is that at this point I think we can safely say the death star trope is going to be retired for a lonnnnng time.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:27 pm to Decatur
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Is she supposed to be related to anyone that anyone we know?
I have someone in mind.
I mean.... SPOILERS....
Its pretty fricking obvious she's Luke's daughter. If shes not, I'll be shocked.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:27 pm to Decatur
quote:They didn't give him nearly enough to do.
Issac was lacking.
My biggest complaint.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:28 pm to CrippleCreek
I think the Supreme Leader is Plagius. Notice he didn't get mad. more cerebral, he expects Ren to try but fail and says at the end he needs more training. Plagius had that style in the books. Even looked kind of like him.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:28 pm to athenslife101
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Kylo Ren deciding he didn't need BB88 or Han going light speed through the shield felt very very very forced to me.
I can agree with this to an extent. I was a bit bewildered for a second on both of these, but quickly forgot due to how much I was enjoying myself.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:29 pm to boXerrumble
quote:That's my guess... but it feels almost too obvious.
Its pretty fricking obvious she's Luke's daughter.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:31 pm to Cockopotamus
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Yea there are similarities but the only plot point that is the same is that they blow up the super sized Death Star at the end. It was the first movie so to connect to fans they are gonna try and hark back to the original
I think even bigger than that was the droid being the MacGuffin in both stories.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:32 pm to ell_13
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That's my guess... but it feels almost too obvious.
I was thinking a relation to Obi Wan but who really knows
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:32 pm to ell_13
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It wasn't until the clones that they had those... if the republic split from the empire, that makes sense.
It's starting to seem like you don't know much about the old movies. Some of your questions are answered there.
The movie makes it sound as if there are 3 factions now. The Republic, Resistance, and First Order.
I find it crazy that the resistance would take on the star killer with just X-wings, and only a small squadron at best, when it took the entire rebel alliance fleet to take out the death star (much smaller size.)
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:32 pm to ell_13
Theres a crazy theory on her origins on the Star Wars reddit that she could be a descendent of Palpatine based on her fighting style with lightsaber jabs
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:33 pm to OMLandshark
I didn't like 3P0 still. Never have.
And I think they could have done R2D2 better. Sleeping beauty until just the right moment? Really?
And I think they could have done R2D2 better. Sleeping beauty until just the right moment? Really?
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:35 pm to boXerrumble
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Theres a crazy theory on her origins on the Star Wars reddit that she could be a descendent of Palpatine based on her fighting style with lightsaber jabs
And so with the offspring of the light and dark forces, the story ultimately becomes about the choices they make. Their destiny is not predetermined by their parents.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:36 pm to ell_13
I loved the scene where he tries to control her mind and she realizes what she is.
Reminded me of when Paul, Leto, or Teg would go through the agony in Dune.
Reminded me of when Paul, Leto, or Teg would go through the agony in Dune.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:36 pm to MeauxMoney
They mentioned in the base that they couldn't take it on "without the republic fleet" which was, I assume, destroyed in the first attack.
If the republic and the first order each control portions of the old empire, the resistance is the population within the area controlled by the order that resists the order, and is supported in their effort by the republic.
But the republic government and fleet were destroyed by Star killer base, so they're in their own now.
If the republic and the first order each control portions of the old empire, the resistance is the population within the area controlled by the order that resists the order, and is supported in their effort by the republic.
But the republic government and fleet were destroyed by Star killer base, so they're in their own now.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:37 pm to Cockopotamus
quote:That was another question I had. Was the Rebel Alliance so bad at governing that the Empire sprung back up inside of two generations?
Seems like minutia to delineate the origins of the Resistance and the Order more than saying they came out of the Rebels and the Empire.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:37 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I think it's problems are the same issues a lot of big tentpole franchises have these days, namely: too many characters
Were there really? All of the new characters survived, so we should get plenty of time to spend with them and know them. I just think it was Hux and Phasma we didn't get enough time with. I think all the others pass the Plinkett test. Just give us another episode or two before deciding there are too many characters.
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always trying to get the the next scene as fast as possible
Aside from when they were about to attack Starkiller Base, I never got that feeling.
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relying a little too much on references to previous movies/other media instead of developing a unique lore for the movie you're making.
I don't think this either. They really dove into the Force in this movie and how it affected the characters, particularly Kylo and Rey. Even over the Original Trilogy, you could see the light and dark sides coming into conflict and battling one another. They did a logical evolution in the Force that didn't involve lightsabers, lightning, and jumping. That's all the prequels showed us the Force was about, while here we got it was a clear mindset that is constantly at war.
Yeah, there were references, but there was plenty of new stuff.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:39 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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one positive is that at this point I think we can safely say the death star trope is going to be retired for a lonnnnng time.
I seriously hope so.
Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:40 pm to blueboy
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That was another question I had. Was the Rebel Alliance so bad at governing that the Empire sprung back up inside of two generations?
Think about it.
At the end of ROTJ, all we know is the Death Star is destroyed, Palpatine is gone, and Vader is gone.
That doesn't explain the rest of the governors or planets left as part of the Empire.
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