re: Star Wars: TFA -Official Discussion Thread - Spoilers

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I think she knew about the Force

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She knew OF the force, but not ABOUT the Force. I know it sounds like I am making a semantical argument, however in this case the semantics do make a difference. Knowing OF something, does not mean you know ABOUT it in a technical sense. She didn't know how it worked, and would have had no way to quantify that she was using the force.


Edit: You may be confused as to when in her life I meant she didnt know about the force. I'm saying as a girl on Jakku, when she was "imagining" the ocean and island, she was in fact using the force. But had no idea that was what she was doing. Kylo Ren was simply seeing the images from her memories when he was searching her mind.

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3. Finn is my least favorite character in the Star Wars universe and that includes bratty young Anakin and Jar Jar. He is just terrible.

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I really don't know if I understand this. This seems like a ridiculous overreaction.

The guy who played Finn is a terrible actor. He was pretty bad

I liked Finn. he took some of the edge and darkness out of the film. He played it like a 90s will smith.

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She already believed in it. Luke didn't. She wasn't fighting herself as much as she discovered it through anger and stress. Obi Wan was teaching Luke

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Never really thought of it this way, but I like this and hope it's explored more. She accepts it almost immediately and now just needs to hone her craft.

It makes her battle with Kylo make more sense as well as to how she was able to turn the tide on him, which he never expected.

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You r right. However she didn't have a roadblock that Luke did.

She already believed in it. Luke didn't. She wasn't fighting herself as much as she discovered it through anger and stress. Obi Wan was teaching Luke.

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What you are saying is correct, but you are missing what I am saying completely.

We are talking about 2 different things.

I'm not talking about her learning how to use the force AT ALL. Not even a little bit. What you said I completely agree with and realized watching it for the first time. I'm not talking about what we saw in the movie.

I am talking about when she was a young girl, alone on Jakku, lonely and scared, mentally begging to see her family again in her mind.

WHhn Kylo Ren reaches into her mind to show her his power. He is able to see a memory from when she was a young girl, her imagining an island in an ocean. Something he thinks she imagined to deal with her loneliness while trying to go to sleep. Because that is what she thinks it is. Something she imagined while trying to sleep as a young girl.

Except, now we know that island in an ocean is where Luke has been this whole time. Which means she saw it through the force, so she didn't imagine it. Either she pulled the image from Luke using the force, or he gave her the image. She has always thought she was imagining the island and ocean, because as a kid she had no frame of reference to know she was using the force. That is what I've been saying. She is so powerful in the force, that she pulled an image from Luke's mind without knowing it, simply because she missed her family and wanted to know where they were. Her emotion lent itself to her power, and she caught a glimpse of where they were. But she thought it was simply her imagining where her family was. Because she didn't know about the force as a kid, though she had obviously heard of it.

Again, You are talking about the events in TFA, I'm talking about when she was a kid 10 years BEFORE TFA.

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A lot of the bad stuff in the first act(Droid, Please!) wasn't Boyega's fault. That was as a racist a line, from a character writing standpoint, as I've ever heard. Since Boyega is black, and american, I guess he had to talk like that, huh? It was over the top, in really bad form,

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Are you referring to when he tried to get the Droid to tell him where the base was?

How in the world would that trigger "racist!"

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How in the world would that trigger "racist!"

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Did you not hear the way he said it? It wasn't him saying please help me. It was said more in the style of "Bitch, please!", which is a vocal style almost exclusively used by black characters in movies and tv.

Maybe that was Boyega's creative choice, but based on some of the things he said in his short bromance with Poe in the beginning, I think they wrote the character that way.

That's why it was racist. They wrote the character from a galaxy far, far away, and who lived a lon, long time ago, to speak in colloquial style used by many african american characters.

I just wanna say, this movie is fricking awesome in BluRay.

Looks absolutely amazing in 1080p with surround sound

Think of the Dune books. Teg and others found powers only when they were put through extreme stress and reacted in anger. SOmething was unlocked.