re: black swan

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NO. She dies. That is the whole f'ing point. It brings everything to a conclusion.

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i'm sorry. that is just not so.

there can be a conclusion without her actually dying.

if she doesn't die, she has achieved perfection. she has driven herself to the point of madness. obviously, she will be removed from the ballet and maybe put in a psyche ward. her career = over. the importance is that she believes she's dying. just as it's important throughout that she believes she's being oppressed by her environment, her mother, and mila kunis's character.

if aranofsky wanted to show her as dead, he would show her as dead. the unreliable perspective throughout leaves it ambiguous.

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The sexiest scene is Portman's solo, and even that has a pretty f'ed twist.

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she was very convincing there.

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Also, friend of mine says its clear that she dies. I do not think that is necessarily true. She could pass out from blood loss.

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She dies IMO

Just like the white swan

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also, don't understand how anyone would say that Portman hadn't had a fulfilling career. She's been wonderful in almost everything she's been in.

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I thought everyone was talking about Winona?

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I can't believe there are so many people that actually think she is not dead at the end.

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I thought it was an excellent film - at the same time, I'm growing tired of "was this part real or wasn't this real?".