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re: Batman vs Superman on demand

Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:29 pm to
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I think this movie in 5 years will be looked back on much more favorably - especially the Ulimate Edition. I think a lot of people on here joined in the initial M/TV group think and are now pot committed to that line of thinking and won't admit the movie is not that bad. The fighting and action scenes (especially Batman's) are great. Better, IMO, those in CA:CW. (The Marvel movies are starting to look alike and bordering on "BIFF!!" "BAM!!" "POW!!" territory)



I really doubt it. Maybe the Ultimate Edition is better. I won't be seeing it. I hated every scene besides when Batman was fricking up the villains "Arkham Asylum" style. And once I remembered I was alive due to that scene, I flipped my shite.

The movie is truly attrocious and easily the worst superhero movie since Catwoman. How is Lex remotely good? His motives and plan make no sense, and for whatever reason Snyder seems convinced that Lex is the Riddler. Why is Clark Kent after Batman after all the shite he himself has done? You can fly a 747 through the plotholes in this film. It's a total disaster.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:33 pm to
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can't help but wonder what all the whining was about.



If you can't see what all the whining was about simply from the storytelling or lack thereof then idk what to tell you

I don't really read the comics so I'm not gonna nit pick every character, but I do know that Lex Luthor wasn't who Eisenberg was playing. That's on Snyder tho

Like many others have said, it felt like they made a 3 and half hour movie, then had to cut an hour of it out

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:35 pm to
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I remember sitting in the theater with my jaw wide open in excitement watching this scene;

To be honest, this scene just made me want to throw my popcorn at the screen. First off, Doomsday is by a very long shot the most overrated villain of all time. Literally anyone on this site could come up with him. He's nothing more than the Cave Troll from Lord of the Rings. He has no business being in the debate for best comic villains ever. He's a mindless strong monster, and that's the extent of his character.

Secondly, if you're going to introduce Doomsday, then he should be around 10 years down the line. Doomsday is endgame, not the second film in a massive fricking franchise. It was a horrible idea to bring him out here.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:36 pm to
I watched the Ultimate Cut last night and enjoyed it. Eisenberg was terrible, but the rest was good.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:38 pm to
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Eisenberg was terrible, but the rest was good.


I kinda feel bad for Eisenberg. He's getting hated on so much because Snyder was like "yea, keep doing that character"
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:42 pm to
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I can defend the plan.


I'm all ears. It makes no sense to me. He uses his own custom bullets to frame Superman. He gives a guy a bomb wheelchair that Superman could probably see through, and if it is lined with lead that's enough proof that there is something malicious about it. And Superman just blows up Congress and that's it? Now he tries to unleash Doomsday, someone more powerful than Superman and someone who will certainly try to end the world. Why would Lex want that?

All this is directly traceable to him. His plan is utterly retarded and nonsensical to say the least. Did he just totally crazy and just throws ridiculous shite against the wall? It's total bullshite from the Luthor from the comics.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:45 pm to
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I kinda feel bad for Eisenberg. He's getting hated on so much because Snyder was like "yea, keep doing that character"


I don't have any disdain for Jesse Eisenberg. It is Snyder and Goyer that deserve my disdain. Honestly, Eisenberg would make a fantastic Riddler, it just seems that Snyder thinks that Lex Luthor is the Riddler. It doesn't make any sense to me.
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:45 pm to
OML has been triggered.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 7:47 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:58 pm to
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Now he tries to unleash Doomsday, someone more powerful than Superman and someone who will certainly try to end the world. Why would Lex want that?



I'm with you on this one. It's just a stupid plan What was Lex's plan once Doomsday kills Superman?
Posted by Rhames
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:00 pm to
The extended cut makes sense with a lot of these issues
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:01 pm to
He probably thought he could control it


People are over thinking to much on this
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 8:03 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108241 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:06 pm to
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The extended cut makes sense with a lot of these issues



Can you tell me why he'd want to make Doomsday or use his own customized bullets to frame Superman?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108241 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:08 pm to
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He probably thought he could control it



Ummm, how? He's a mindless monster. Superman can at least be reasoned with. Doomsday can't be reasoned with. It was a totally stupid plan.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:10 pm to
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Can you tell me why he'd want to make Doomsday


Already did


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his own customized bullets to frame Superman


His own customized bullets were probably suppose to shatter into something untraceable on contact. The burning of the bodies would make it not Worth looking into the deaths any further. It was unfortunate that one was preserved in the journal
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 8:13 pm
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:15 pm to
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mmm, how? He's a mindless monster.


Well he used his blood. One could Easily assume that could be the reason. Like I said people are over thinking to find some ridiculous plot hole.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 8:16 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108241 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:16 pm to
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Already did



Not here. I don't remember it, but I'm guessing it required some serious jumping through hoops.

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His own customized bullets were suppose to shatter into something untraceable on contact. It was misfortune that one was preserved in the journal


Regardless if they disintegrate or not (shatter would be ridiculous since Superman wouldn't leave metal shards behind), shouldn't there be a massive difference in the autopsy from Superman bashing their face in and being shot? Wouldn't there be bullet wounds instead of a shattered body from Superman's blows? This doesn't stand up to anyone who is remotely intelligent, even if they we supposed to disintegrate,
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:17 pm to
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One could Easily assume that could be the reason. Like I said people are over thinking to find some ridiculous plot hole.


To be fair, you're also assuming something that wasn't shown to be true
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108241 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:18 pm to
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Well he used his blood. One could Easily assume that could be the reason


Well, that's one hell of a stupid assumption. All he has to do is see Frankenstein to know that's a bad idea. He's not a mastermind, but simply insane. Lex Luthor is humanity's hero as he sees it. I can't see any viable interpretation of Lex creating Doomsday.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:21 pm to
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houldn't there be a massive difference in the autopsy from Superman bashing their face in and being shot?


Why are you talking about bashing their heads in? They were burned to a crisp in a pile.

And lex showed his influence on government officials to get zods body;. You don't think he could influence the person performing the autopsy report.?

Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:22 pm to
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All he has to do is see Frankenstein to know that's a bad idea


You're using another story to show why a character shouldn't think something in a completely different universe....? .


Why was the monster created in Frankenstein?
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 8:27 pm
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