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re: Youth Baseball and the lack of effort and general baseball knowledge
Posted on 6/10/17 at 9:09 am to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 6/10/17 at 9:09 am to Roger Klarvin
I have seen others years of baseball from kids this age. not just this one time. These kids are getting worse. The coaching certainly did not help either. Move along now if you are going to keep coming at me, have a good day.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 9:20 am to redbullwings
I think OP needs to relax a little bit but kids really don't understand the Game on their own because parents have structured their entire childhood. They are learning the game through playing pick up backyard games with other kids. They are waiting for adults to teach them and make every decision for them. I guess 10-15 years ago it was declared dangerous for kids to play independently so since then 100% of what they do is organized and structured by mom and dad.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 9:23 am to Weagle25
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don't see anything wrong with what you said. Coaches don't really coach anymore from what I've seen. Not the kids' fault.
Actually, you can't blame it on the coach. As has been stayed, the kids DGAF and many don't really want to be there. In order for them to be coached they have to be coachable first. The coach could go all redass on them but it won't do any good. The coach, at this point, is nothing but a glorified babysitter.
I've been there, coaching rec ball, it sucks for the kids who actually want to compete. The reason that travel sports exists.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 9:25 am to BatonrougeCajun
I agree with all but one thing you said..
I don't think this is happening as much as you think. That was part of my problem. I don't think kids are playing sports at home nearly as much anymore. As one poster previously mentioned, it probably has to do with the iPhone/Pad generation. Youth in general are not acquiring a love of playing sports at home as we did growing up, thus they are not very in to the games at the park.
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They are learning the game through playing pick up backyard games with other kids
I don't think this is happening as much as you think. That was part of my problem. I don't think kids are playing sports at home nearly as much anymore. As one poster previously mentioned, it probably has to do with the iPhone/Pad generation. Youth in general are not acquiring a love of playing sports at home as we did growing up, thus they are not very in to the games at the park.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 9:27 am to SoDakHawk
I am learning this first hand now. I will certainly be volunteering next year for my own kids and nephew if possible.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 9:38 am to Roger Klarvin
lol, i quit going to watch my nephew play baseball. It was such a poor product that i couldn't watch. When i was their age, we were 100X better, knew the rules, might not of been able to make all the plays, but could.
Their practice was also a joke, ZERO teaching, ZERO fundamentals.
My nephew can hit the hell out of the ball, but he can't catch to save his life. So what does his parents and Grandpas do when they play ball at home? They let him hit the whole time.
And i can tell, the kids aren't having fun at all, because they are failing and not being shown or taught what their are doing wrong. So when their parents get on them, they get upset, even though they don't actually know how to correct or what they exactly did wrong.
Coaching is thew problem, you get on some league, people donating their time, w/no kids on the team, and it shows.
Their practice was also a joke, ZERO teaching, ZERO fundamentals.
My nephew can hit the hell out of the ball, but he can't catch to save his life. So what does his parents and Grandpas do when they play ball at home? They let him hit the whole time.
And i can tell, the kids aren't having fun at all, because they are failing and not being shown or taught what their are doing wrong. So when their parents get on them, they get upset, even though they don't actually know how to correct or what they exactly did wrong.
Coaching is thew problem, you get on some league, people donating their time, w/no kids on the team, and it shows.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 9:45 am to redbullwings
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None of them were interested in the game
Well, yeah. It's baseball.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 9:54 am to redbullwings
SIGN UP TO COACH BRUH ! Sounds like they need ya
Posted on 6/10/17 at 9:56 am to BatonrougeCajun
I think you meant to say they are NOT learning the game playing pickup
My experience is kids don't play neighborhood sandlot independently any more, they are waiting for adult organized activities
My experience is kids don't play neighborhood sandlot independently any more, they are waiting for adult organized activities
Posted on 6/10/17 at 10:01 am to redbullwings
Coming from someone who coaches kids at that level (not a parent or select ball), it's funny when you say the coaches should teach them situational stuff and focus on throwing or catching.
Most of those teams practice probably once a week for 1.5 hrs or so, you spend so much time trying to teach basic fundamentals like throwing, catching, fielding, you don't really have the ability to focus on situations in practice so you have to use the games to teach that stuff. Also that's right at the age where pretty much everyone is still playing baseball, even kids who won't stick with sports long.
Go watch your nephew play in a year or two and you'll notice a lot of the not giving a crap will have weeded out because those kids won't be playing anymore
ETA: I agree a lot of the daddy ball coaches are awful and don't know how to teach kids anything, but they are also limited in what they can do even if they're Bobby Cox
This post was edited on 6/10/17 at 10:04 am
Posted on 6/10/17 at 10:03 am to redbullwings
Quit judging the state of the youth game by a summer league game. The expanding travel game is Related to the deteriorating league play.. it's also summer league where the good league players are playing all stars and travel.. there are some quality spring leagues in Louisiana and Baton Rouge is poised to regain that quality in the coming years
Posted on 6/10/17 at 10:07 am to Weagle25
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And now I'm sitting here bitching about a guy bitching about a guy bitching...
can'r resist but I will do it in shorthand
(bitch)^4
Posted on 6/10/17 at 10:09 am to redbullwings
Your nephew's team sucks
Posted on 6/10/17 at 10:11 am to redbullwings
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Not one kid was upset after they lost the game.
that's cause they know they'll get a free coke after the game.
and then a participation trophy and a pizza party at the end of the year.
at least that's how we did it at my ball park.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 11:11 am to LooseCannon22282
Asking a 9 year to look off the runner at 3rd before throwing to first is a bit much.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 11:44 am to redbullwings
quote:The other side of that debate is that because so many kids are playing travel ball now, the only kids left playing league ball are those who aren't very good for various reasons.
I guess. I have always been against the travel ball teams, but I think I understand it better now.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 11:54 am to redbullwings
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they were all horsing around in the dugouts, some with fidget spinners, and not paying attention at all. Not one kid was upset after they lost the game. Not one time did I hear any coach or parent give corrective criticism to a player,
Good. Sounds like a great 9 year old operation.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 12:03 pm to TROLA
It was not a summer league game. It was a regular season game.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 12:08 pm to redbullwings
TL, DR. Downvote because they are fricking 9 year olds playing for fun you loser.
Posted on 6/10/17 at 12:12 pm to CaptainBrannigan
My parents used to record my little league games so I have proof that when I was playing T-ball from 1992-1994, everyone in the lineup could hit the ball to the baseline and 3-4 of us consistently hit the ball in the outfield or to the fence. We also could field a ground ball and make the throw to 1st or any other base.
I've watched my nephews play T-Ball for the last decade or so and they are HORRIBLE. Very few of them can make solid contact and the parents go nuts if someone actually hits the ball to the short stop. If you hit the ball past the infield, it's a homerun because no one knows what to do with the ball.
OP is right to a degree....there is a real lack of effort and general knowledge. Our old little league teams look like major league prospects compared to what I see now.
*and that's just T-Ball...I can't imagine what 9 & 10+ must look like.
I've watched my nephews play T-Ball for the last decade or so and they are HORRIBLE. Very few of them can make solid contact and the parents go nuts if someone actually hits the ball to the short stop. If you hit the ball past the infield, it's a homerun because no one knows what to do with the ball.
OP is right to a degree....there is a real lack of effort and general knowledge. Our old little league teams look like major league prospects compared to what I see now.
*and that's just T-Ball...I can't imagine what 9 & 10+ must look like.
This post was edited on 6/10/17 at 12:13 pm
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