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Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:25 am to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33584 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:25 am to
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FSU would just start taking TO. Then they would only need a fg to win with the best kicker in college FB... Great strategy.


They only had 2.
Posted by JB Bama
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Sep 2008
2669 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:25 am to
If my team can't get an inch on 3 plays thats more embarrassing than giving up a 1:20 TD drive wouldn't you say?
Posted by JB Bama
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Sep 2008
2669 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:26 am to
FSU only had 2 and they are blowing 1 before 1st down.

Im pressing my advantage of my offense which I trust more than my defense

Oh and I also have the #1 rushing offense in the country and already have 200+ yards rushing at this point
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 12:27 am
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:27 am to
Did i ever say anything about "playing for your job"? No. Just saying that if you make that decision and run the clock out then kick a field to send it into OT and not attempt to get in the endzone, then kick a FG to send it into OT, and lose in OT. Thats a call that could get you fired.

You didnt think that Auburn was trying to run the clock down?? They were. Mason just broke off a 37 yard TD. And in that moment, after FSU had a huge kick return and the momentum, i doubt anybody on that team was thinking or wanting Mason to fall down so they could run some more clock off. Just happened that he scored on a 37 yard run.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 12:29 am
Posted by oompaw
In piney hill country...
Member since Dec 2007
6271 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:29 am to
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If my team can't get an inch on 3 plays thats more embarrassing than giving up a 1:20 TD drive wouldn't you say?


That's also three chances to fumble, three chances to be penalized for holding, false start, illegal motion...

Score and play defense.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33764 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:29 am to
a fumble or a penalty could happen.


just get the six.

if the Auburn DB's had not collided and let the FSU WR loose when they got the ball back, you probably have no reason to even ask this.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27831 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:30 am to
Auburn isn't a powering running team. Scoring at the goal line is much tougher for their style offense than from the +5.
Posted by oompaw
In piney hill country...
Member since Dec 2007
6271 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:33 am to
quote:

FSU only had 2 and they are blowing 1 before 1st down.

Im pressing my advantage of my offense which I trust more than my defense


So let me see if I understand your reasoning. You take a knee inside to 1 yard line so not to score.
FSU calls a time out, which leaves him with one. It's now 1st and goal, so you kneel and FSU burns their last time out. You now have 3 plays to score.

Too many things can happen to keep you out of th endzone. Take the score an play defense.
Posted by SaintCajun
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2012
4294 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:33 am to
The lat thing going through Mason's mind was falling down at the one. It shard to process all that while playing the game. Just look back the giants-pats Super Bowl when Bradshaw, I think, tried to do it but it was too late
Posted by oompaw
In piney hill country...
Member since Dec 2007
6271 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:35 am to
The only reason he would have to take a knee would be if they already had the lead.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:38 am to
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No, worst case is you miss the field goal.

Worst case is you score and give the ball to Jameis Winston with 1:19 to go.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
10571 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:38 am to
Ok
Posted by SaintCajun
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2012
4294 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:39 am to
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The only reason he would have to take a knee would be if they already had the lead.


Now this I've seen quite a bit in the NFL. Guy breaks a big run and then falls down after getting the first so they can kneel it out
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 12:39 am to
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Now this I've seen quite a bit in the NFL. Guy breaks a big run and then falls down after getting the first so they can kneel it out



You're right it does happen a lot in the NFL - usually only when a FG wins it though.
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
1391 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:02 am to
I said the same thing when it happened. The returned kickoff was a godsend because it gave them time to work. Their hurry up did use enough time. The needed to down the ball at the 1 and run the clock down.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43668 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 6:20 am to
absolutely would have been the right call. you play to win the game, that means putting your team in the best position to win. FSU had the momentum and the auburn defense was worn out. leaving that much time on the clock killed auburn. if he goes down at the one, at best, they leave fsu with no timeouts and about 30 seconds to go down the field for the score. at worst, they kick a fg and go to overtime.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27831 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 6:24 am to
quote:

at worst, they kick a fg and go to overtime.


Yeah I've never seen anyone fumble or miss a chip shot fg around the goal line. Especially not auburn....
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111138 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 7:36 am to
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The only reason he would have to take a knee would be if they already had the lead
Or if tied, down by 1 or 2, kneeling at the 1 would have given you the greatest odds of winning.

But if the field goal only ties, then I wouldn't do it, like in last night's situation.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111138 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Auburn isn't a powering running team. Scoring at the goal line is much tougher for their style offense than from the +5
Is there data to back this up? I'm not certain this is so.
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:17 am to
Only on the MSB would people expect a running back, after breaking 4 tackles on a miraculous run, to simply fall down at the 1 yard line down 3 with the national title on the line.
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