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re: What's going on with the Spurs?
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:11 pm to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:11 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Even at full strength the Pelicans wouldn't have made the playoffs this year.
This.
Pelicans fans can't have it both ways. The only reason why they are even in the hunt right now is because of the injuries to OKC, and SA.
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:14 pm to LSU Piston
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Charlotte 22-32
Brooklyn 23-31
Milwaukee 31-25
Indiana 23-33
Toronto 37-19
San Antonio 34-22
OKC 31-25
Houston 38-18
Pels 29-27
Toronto, SA, and Houston are much deeper than the pels. They can sustain injuries. Houston hasn't dealt with the same amount of injuries either.
If you look at those records of teams you say are dealing with the same amount of injuries with us I'd say were doing pretty well all things considered.
2 games out of the playoffs isn't that bad considering 4 of our top 6 have missed big chunks of games.
ETA: never said we would make the playoffs if fully healthy. It would be nice to have the opportunity to make that call after seeing more than 5 games with a full squad.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:18 pm to whoknows1390
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Toronto, SA, and Houston are much deeper than the pels. T
Blame your GM for not having adequate bench players for the first 50%+ of the sesason. He finally has added some league average backups in Pondexter, Cunningham, and Cole, but your teams record would be better had he done a better job of filling out the roster with NBA level players earlier in the season.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:20 pm to whoknows1390
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If you look at those records of teams you say are dealing with the same amount of injuries with us I'd say were doing pretty well all things considered.
I agree with you. But nobody is going to feel sorry for the Pels.
When was the last time you felt sorry for Indiana? They haven't had PG13 all season. How about Charlotte? How many games have they had Kemba/Big Al?
Gotta suit up and play.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:22 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Blame your GM for not having adequate bench players for the first 50%+ of the sesason.
It's absolutely his fault, whats your point.
All i was saying is that the pels have dealt with a severe amount of injuries which has robbed them of a chance to truly evaluate what they have.
Hard for them to decide who's in the long term plans when none of them are ever on the court.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:39 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Que?
Isn't it fun?
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:45 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Nah, you need to let 'em hang around. Giving hope to an in-state rival is sporting and leads to Larrys
only thing I know about game 7s vs Houston are 40 point wins.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:46 pm to LSU Piston
Yet they've bitched out those teams even at full strength
At full strength I think we are a 45-50 win team, which is likely good enough to get in. Jrue out for so long as sucked, AD missing time, Gordon missed time, Ryno as well. I will agree with boom that the team should've had better depth from the start, and I'll also throw in that our coach sucks. However, even with that said I think this would be a playoff team, but they've had bad luck with injuries.
At full strength I think we are a 45-50 win team, which is likely good enough to get in. Jrue out for so long as sucked, AD missing time, Gordon missed time, Ryno as well. I will agree with boom that the team should've had better depth from the start, and I'll also throw in that our coach sucks. However, even with that said I think this would be a playoff team, but they've had bad luck with injuries.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:55 pm to CocoLoco
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At full strength I think we are a 45-50 win team, which is likely good enough to get in.
Over who?
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However, even with that said I think this would be a playoff team, but they've had bad luck with injuries.
I said it above. How can you keep bringing up the injury excuse when the 2 teams directly above you in the standings have been AT LEAST as injured as you?
The Pelicans (likely) aren't good enough this year. There is no shame in that. The West is tough. I personally think the Pelicans have had a great year.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:59 pm to LSU Piston
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I said it above. How can you keep bringing up the injury excuse when the 2 teams directly above you in the standings have been AT LEAST as injured as you?
The Pelicans (likely) aren't good enough this year. There is no shame in that. The West is tough. I personally think the Pelicans have had a great year.
I pretty much agree with this unfortunately. This roster as currently constructed tops out at a 7 or 8th seed most likely.
like i said, the worst part about the injuries is it robs the team of a chance to truly evaluate who should be in the long term plans.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:00 pm to LSU Piston
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Over who?
Possibly Spurs. I know you are going to say that the Spurs were injured too, but thats expected.
I understand we can't claim bad luck with injuries but not recognize that for OKC. But Spurs isn't really bad luck. Its what they trade off for experience and vets. It's not really bad luck when 38 year olds can't play 75+ games.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:02 pm to TheSexecutioner
A healthy Pelicans team is not better than the Spurs.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:07 pm to brgfather129
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A healthy Pelicans team is not better than the Spurs.
Not better than a healthy Spurs, no....... A Pelicans team who's players play the amount of games you would expect for their age might be better over the course of a season than a Spurs team who's players play the amount of games you would expect for their age.
And I think thats where a lot of Pels fans frustration comes from. Its like we're getting the inexperience of such a young team but not the durability that should go with that,
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:08 pm to TheSexecutioner
So, while its reasonable to expect 21 year old AD to play 75 or so games a year, it might be equally reasonable to expect 38 year old Duncan to play 55.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:01 pm to TheSexecutioner
Biggest issue with the Spurs right now is Parker. He is the outlier in the team's regression this season.
Duncan is playing great right now, almost trying to will these guys to victories, which certainly isn't the style they need.
Ginobili is historically streaky, so any ups and downs are not surprising.
Mills and Diaw played at an extremely high level last season during the postseason run, so any regression could simply be a trip back to Earth, and Mills' injuries haven't helped.
Green has continued to play his role well, even adding in some high IQ defense.
Leonard's role and expectations have grown. His numbers continue to go up, but injuries have prevented him from possibly taking the next step.
Then there's Parker...injuries have been a thorn in his side for years, but he continues to show a slower recovery rate. His pick-and-roll game with Splitter seems non-existent.
I would suggest maybe using more Cory Joseph...but really, something more drastic is probably needed.
Duncan is playing great right now, almost trying to will these guys to victories, which certainly isn't the style they need.
Ginobili is historically streaky, so any ups and downs are not surprising.
Mills and Diaw played at an extremely high level last season during the postseason run, so any regression could simply be a trip back to Earth, and Mills' injuries haven't helped.
Green has continued to play his role well, even adding in some high IQ defense.
Leonard's role and expectations have grown. His numbers continue to go up, but injuries have prevented him from possibly taking the next step.
Then there's Parker...injuries have been a thorn in his side for years, but he continues to show a slower recovery rate. His pick-and-roll game with Splitter seems non-existent.
I would suggest maybe using more Cory Joseph...but really, something more drastic is probably needed.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:04 pm to TheSexecutioner
Davis hasn't ever even played 70 and people have wondered if his frame could take a pounding for an entire season. It would be reasonable to expect 65 games out of Davis imo.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 7:24 am to okietiger
Bump
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:14 am to TexasTiger08
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What's going on with the Spurs?
I feel like this thread is made every year at some point.
Once the playoffs arrive, all bets are off. I sure as hell won't be betting against the Spurs.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 12:22 pm to boXerrumble
This is the worst I've seen Parker play since his rookie season.
Patty Mills has been playing better lately. Not kidding.
But you definitely are right.
Patty Mills has been playing better lately. Not kidding.
But you definitely are right.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 12:28 pm to LSU Piston
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What's going on with the Spurs?
Complacency and Parker playing like he's 38
Duncan is not the problem. He's playing better than he did last season.
Pels fans: Don't get your hopes up
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 12:30 pm
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