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Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 6:59 pm to
The best ever was Secretariat vs. Sham. In any other year Sham would likely have gone into the Belmont as a truly great winner of the first two legs and likely winner of the Triple Crown. But Secretariat was truly a very, very, VERY special horse.

Steve Coburn showed he has no class. I understand his plight, but think about races like in the Olympics. You think Michael Phelps complained when he raced against others who hadn't aleady raced in a half dozen events? Hell....No! Too much class for that. Coburn? No class.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:01 pm to
Who remembers when ABC tried to make a trile crown winner every year? They would have the series where winner got a mill bonus and if someone won the crown they got 5 mill bonus. Only rule was had to run all three to win the bonus. People were skipping races back in the 80's, so maybe the racing commissions should set this up again if people want lot of horses in all 3.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:07 pm to
I do.

In the 80's - they took the 3 separate races and acted like you didn't win anything unless you won all 3 - like that was the only goal...or at least, they tried to force horses into all the races.

It was like NASCAR or something...you got points for finishing every race.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 7:08 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
105739 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:16 pm to
It was tacky
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:20 pm to
Best way point could have been made to the masses

I do realize that horse people do not care what the masses think
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 7:21 pm
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:30 pm to
Stupid point. Never been used before. Talk about an asterisk after a win....
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:33 pm to
The man was a poor sport, and he is wrong. The Triple Crown format is firmly etched in stone and is meant to be a test of ability, soundness, and stamina. All triple crown winners have had this ability; California Chrome was gallant in defeat. I have been watching the triple crown since 1962, and I have never seen such a poor sport in my life. You didn't hear the owners of other colts who defeated in the Belmont moan and groan like this man. If you don't like the format, don't run my man.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:34 pm to
Please explain why stupid point.

You are probably right, though. He says nothing if his horse wins.

Still does not made point less valid.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 7:35 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

The man was a poor sport, and he is wrong. The Triple Crown format is firmly etched in stone and is meant to be a test of ability, soundness, and stamina. All triple crown winners have had this ability; California Chrome was gallant in defeat. I have been watching the triple crown since 1962, and I have never seen such a poor sport in my life. You didn't hear the owners of other colts who defeated in the Belmont moan and groan like this man. If you don't like the format, don't run my man.

This.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:38 pm to
That hasn't been a condition for any of the other winners. Why now?

Because we are breeding shittier horses?
Posted by Rouge
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:39 pm to
Please provide situations similar to this where TC hopeful lost Belmont to multiple horses that ran neither derby nor preakness

I really dont know how to research such a question
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:40 pm to
Owner of Smarty Jones, lost in final 100, to a horse that skipped the preakness.

Mike Pegram lost the triple frown by a nostril, and he never cried, whined about race, and the such.

No one has ever cried about the race after losing, expect this turd
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

That's why it's so hard to win the Triple Crown. Did Secretariat or Affirmed race against any horses that sat out the Preakness?


73 Kentucky Derby

1st Secretariat

2nd Sham

3rd Our Native

4th Forego

5th Restless Jet

6th Shecky Greene

7th Navajo

8th Royal And Regal

9th My Gallant

10th Angle Light

11th Gold Bag

12th Twice A Prince

13th Warbucks


73 Preakness

1st Secretariat

2nd Sham

3rd Our Native

4th Ecole Etage

5th Deadly Dream

6th Torsion


73 Belmont

1st Secretariat

2nd Twice A Prince

3rd My Gallant

4th Pvt. Smiles

5th Sham
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

It was tacky


Extremely, but I like authentic reactions. It was interesting.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
54823 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

Yea. I'm a complete horse racing noob, so I just learned about these horses not having to race all 3 big ones. Seems pretty unfair to me.




Their game, their rules.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

73 Kentucky Derby

1st Secretariat

2nd Sham

3rd Our Native

4th Forego

5th Restless Jet

6th Shecky Greene

7th Navajo

8th Royal And Regal

9th My Gallant

10th Angle Light

11th Gold Bag

12th Twice A Prince

13th Warbucks


73 Preakness

1st Secretariat

2nd Sham

3rd Our Native

4th Ecole Etage

5th Deadly Dream

6th Torsion


73 Belmont

1st Secretariat

2nd Twice A Prince

3rd My Gallant

4th Pvt. Smiles

5th Sham
Sham quit at Belmont
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
54823 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

Your right but back in the day many horses ran most if not all 3 races. Some of the rivalries were legendary. Alydar and Affirmed come to mind.

The game has changed and it will keep a Triple Crown from happening again any time so


You're


Your logic states the game hasn't changed. Read your post.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
54823 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

Sham quit at Belmont


He was worn out from battling Sec for the first two races.

All about class and heart.


Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
105739 posts
Posted on 6/7/14 at 9:25 pm to
Plus, they later found a hairline fracture. Who knows, it may have started in that Belmont.
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