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TDs allowed on NFL CBs over past 3 seasons.

Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:21 pm
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:21 pm
Pro Football Focus ?@PFF Jul 11
TDs allowed on CBs over past 3 seasons:
1. Chris Harris 3
2. Richard Sherman 6
3. Darrelle Revis 6
4. Joe Haden 16
5. Patrick Peterson 21

Shocked that Chris Harris gave up so few. Haden and PP
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 12:25 pm
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:23 pm to
I just see a small empty box, but I presume Chris Harris Jr leads the list at 0 TD's allowed in 2014.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:23 pm to
This will be fun.
Posted by Sellecks Moustache
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:23 pm to
You done did it.
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:24 pm to
Harris is perennially underrated. Cybermetrics rank him as a top 3 cornerback but he did not even make the top 100 list.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:26 pm to
That's pathetic.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:27 pm to
This is a misleading stat, Harris and Sherman play in zone heavy schemes that don't require them to follow the other team's best receiver or play on an island with no safety help. It also allows advanced stat keepers to fudged the numbers by blaming their occasional mistakes on the inside corner not switching or the safety not getting over the top.

Meanwhile, Patrick Peterson plays man on 82% of his snaps and follows the other team's best receiver from sideline to sideline. Only giving up 7 TDs a year doing that is far more impressive than anything a zone corner does.

Richard Sherman plays man coverage less than 40% of the time. He is great at reading QBs, but he just isn't asked to do much locking down of receivers.
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Ldrake53
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:27 pm to
Haden and PP7 are probably the two best players of all those listed.


Julio schooled PP7 last year, though, that's the truth.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:29 pm to
Look at Revis. Nice.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:30 pm to
I'm not defending Patrick Peterson, but without intimate knowledge of the coverage schemes, this is a loaded stat.
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Richard Sherman plays man coverage less than 40% of the time. He is great at reading QBs, but he just isn't asked to do much locking down of receivers.


This is why I'll always think Sherman is vastly overrated.
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:30 pm to
7 TDs a year is face palm worthy?
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:31 pm to
I'll give Joe Haden a pass. He plays for the Browns. As Emmitt Smith once said "When you have a few diamonds mixed in with a lot of cowshit, eventually it all looks like cowshit."
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:35 pm to
Nobody will ever be as impressive as Deion, dude played straight man coverage his entire career and gave up less than 2 TDs/yr. Hid worst season as a pro, his second year in Atlanta, saw him give up a whole 5 TDs. He had three years where he gave up 0 TDs.

Deion played man even in zone schemes, they would put him on the other team's best wide out and zone everyone else. Jerry Rice said Deion was the only guy he ever played against who he legitimately thought was a better football player.
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 12:36 pm
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:39 pm to
Peterson does give up a lot of big plays though.
Posted by TJGator1215
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:41 pm to
If you're best in the league it is. Zero excuse for PP and Haden. They're both great corners.

PP gave up almost 200 yards to JJ.

LINK
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:42 pm to
Sherman and Harris are rarely in a position to give up big plays. Seattle especially has such awesome safety play that their corners can be super aggressive in their zone responsibilities and jump on everything short and intermediate.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:51 pm to
That video you provided showed him get torched, but at least two of those catches weren't even his responsibility.

That being said, I honestly don't know what kind of scheme Arizona was running on a couple of those plays. With someone the speed/size of Julio, if you're going to only give him a 2 yard cushion, you need to redirect him, outside for a trail inside for a true man (simplifying of course).
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 12:55 pm
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 1:06 pm to
Well PP always guards the other teams #1 guy and he was VERY sick all year last year so it's not fair to compare him to Sherman when only looking at TDs given up.
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