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re: Strategies that football coaches should do but never do
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:02 pm to Goldrush25
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:02 pm to Goldrush25
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Some coach will come along in the near future and he'll for it on 4th down at about a 50% clip, he'll be successful and it'll change the game.
His name was Mike Leach.
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:05 pm to SirWinston
quote:this gives you a risk of the kick going OB
should either attempt a traditional onside kick OR should float the kickoff as high as possible
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:54 pm to SirWinston
Mine pertains to preserving a lead late in games.
Ditch the prevent defense. It takes 4 seconds off the clock to complete a 12 yard out route.
5 wideout formations means empty backfield. Press 5 receivers with corners. Rush 5. Play one guy 30 yards deep to prevent the homerun ball- which is what the prevent is designed to do. What happens more often than not though is that the offense marches right down the field 12-15 yards at a time and scores anyway. This is especially puzzling in low scoring games where a team has defended an offense one way for the entirety of the game with success and then switches it up at the end.
The prevent should only be deployed on Hail Mary situations, and even then you're probably better off rushing 5 and jamming guys at the line because they won't have time to get down the field.
A riskier option that still works is bringing one more player than the line can block. A blitzer has to get 5 yards upfield before a receiver can get 50 yards downfield. I like the blitzers odds
Ditch the prevent defense. It takes 4 seconds off the clock to complete a 12 yard out route.
5 wideout formations means empty backfield. Press 5 receivers with corners. Rush 5. Play one guy 30 yards deep to prevent the homerun ball- which is what the prevent is designed to do. What happens more often than not though is that the offense marches right down the field 12-15 yards at a time and scores anyway. This is especially puzzling in low scoring games where a team has defended an offense one way for the entirety of the game with success and then switches it up at the end.
The prevent should only be deployed on Hail Mary situations, and even then you're probably better off rushing 5 and jamming guys at the line because they won't have time to get down the field.
A riskier option that still works is bringing one more player than the line can block. A blitzer has to get 5 yards upfield before a receiver can get 50 yards downfield. I like the blitzers odds
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:56 pm to NWLA Tiguh12
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I would just take a delay of game and back up 5 yards and attempt pat. Save your timeout.
This might be a dumb question, but if you get a delay of game on a 2PT attempt, can you then decide to kick the PAT instead? If so, is the 5 yards tacked on to the PAT attempt distance?
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:58 pm to slackster
Yes and yes.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:05 pm to slackster
Yes and yes.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:21 pm to SirWinston
Number 1 is pretty good...Number 2 definitely happens alot more at college/high school level
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:22 pm to Goldrush25
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They should go for it on 4th down much more often than they do, especially 4th and short.
Simple math when figure that the average yards per play is 5 yards. There are absolutely some situations where failing to convert would hurt you more than converting would help you. Overall though, teams are too fearful of the negative outcome to the point where they coach sub optimally.
This is especially true in this age of offensive football, where 30-35 yards of field position isn't that big a deal, even if you don't convert on 4th down. A possession is worth way more than 30-35 yards of field position.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:24 pm to SirWinston
Score a TD late in the game to go up by 7. Go for 2 and win the game
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:29 pm to Glorious
Why not just kick the FG to win?
Posted on 9/25/17 at 5:43 pm to ReauxlTide222
You have roughly a 50/50 chance to end the game on the spot. If you don’t get it then they still have to score a touchdown on you. If they get the touchdown then you still have a 50/50 shot of winning in OT. High reward low risk
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 9/25/17 at 9:39 pm to SirWinston
Cards 
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:24 am to PeteRose
The 1st option doesn't work anymore. Coaches now have to declare to the ref whether they are going for 2 or kicking the XP.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 6:24 am to TheCaterpillar
I see scenario 2 all the time at the HS level
Posted on 9/26/17 at 6:52 am to shel311
Only one team has brady.
Op makes good overall point.
Coaches are conservative, dont want monday morning qbs ripping them for out of box plays.
Op makes good overall point.
Coaches are conservative, dont want monday morning qbs ripping them for out of box plays.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 7:06 am to SirWinston
could you theoretically ask for the 2 point conversion then intentionally do a delay of game putting the ball on the 7 and then kick a shorter pat?
Posted on 9/26/17 at 7:29 am to SirWinston
When they're pinned inside their own one yard line, they should try to get the defense to jump offsides more often. I would even have my OL flinch a little to try and get the call. What's the worst that happens? You only back up two inches on a false start. I would keep trying it until they jumped.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:51 am to Goldrush25
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They should go for it on 4th down much more often than they do, especially 4th and short.
There was a Freakonomics episode about this.
They said you should never, ever punt. Don't even have a punter on the team - use that roster spot somewhere else.
When you work on the basis that you have 4 downs to get a first, instead of three, it completely changes your play calling. You work towards having every 4th down be for 5 yards or less... which there is something like a close to 50/50 rate of being able to convert in those situations.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:04 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:That's taking it too far on the other end.
They said you should never, ever punt.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:12 am to shel311
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That's taking it too far on the other end.
The idea was there's no good way to be picky. To make the percentages work, you gotta go all out
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