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Soccer then and now.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:21 pm
As an American spectator sport, on a scale of 1-10 in terms of prominence (10 being NFL), where was soccer 20 years ago, where is it now, and where will it be in ten years?
I will say it was a 1, now it's a 3.5, and in 10 years it will be a 5.
I will say it was a 1, now it's a 3.5, and in 10 years it will be a 5.
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:25 pm to baybeefeetz
Consistent interest is still minimal, but media coverage has exploded.
There was a time not so long ago when ESPN basically covered the World Cup and that was it. I don't ever remember MLS or Premiere League highlights as a kid.
There was a time not so long ago when ESPN basically covered the World Cup and that was it. I don't ever remember MLS or Premiere League highlights as a kid.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:27 pm to baybeefeetz
2 to 5 IMO. If people get over the fact that the MLS will always be secondary to the top Euro leagues in the heart of fans, they'll see that it's already a clear number four and not that far behind baseball.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:27 pm to baybeefeetz
It's been "the up and coming sport" since I was in high school in the 1980s.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:29 pm to East Coast Band
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coming sport" since I was in high school in the 1980s.
Yeah, but
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media coverage has exploded.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:32 pm to East Coast Band
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It's been "the up and coming sport" since I was in high school in the 1980s.
We didn't have a major professional league until 94This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:34 pm to baybeefeetz
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media coverage has exploded.
More channels needing more content.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:36 pm to TheWalrus
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2 to 5
This.
In 10 years it's going to be 8-9.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:36 pm to saintsfan22
But putting out a good product.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:38 pm to baybeefeetz
1 then.
5 now.
7.5 in 10 years.
5 now.
7.5 in 10 years.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:59 pm to lynxcat
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7.5 in 10 years.
I dunno. MLS is an inferior league, so it's never going to be on the level of baseball and football. And the Premier League has a ceiling because there's no connection for most fans. If I were going to watch a European team, which team would I follow and for what reason?
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:01 pm to baybeefeetz
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As an American spectator sport, on a scale of 1-10 in terms of prominence (10 being NFL), where was soccer 20 years ago, where is it now, and where will it be in ten years?
Soccer
This should really be our logo on the USMNT.
"America's sport of the future since 1972."
I read about the 4-year plan recently that they had back then.
Gonna be #1 in 1976!
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:15 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
We have more players playing for big clubs than ever before. Ya'll are mocking the whole "up and coming" thing but we've never had anywhere near this much youth talent before. MLS youth academies started less than 10 years ago, and that is how you will get an elite league. There is a certain player on our national team that will probably be our first "world superstar" in the next few years.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:24 pm to baybeefeetz
Then- maybe a -1? It was a sport every kid played and no one cared about after they stopped playing and moved to football, baseball, and basketball.
Now- maybe a 4. The popularity of the Fifa video game franchise is making some of the lesser known (to non soccer followers) players more known. More leagues and teams are starting to become better known to younger kids and gamers. Added that the European championships and the Americas championships just happened and both were pretty good tourneys.
Future- hard to say. As others have said, soccer has been the sport of the future since Pele came over here. I think it's on an upswing, but can we do anything with it?
Now- maybe a 4. The popularity of the Fifa video game franchise is making some of the lesser known (to non soccer followers) players more known. More leagues and teams are starting to become better known to younger kids and gamers. Added that the European championships and the Americas championships just happened and both were pretty good tourneys.
Future- hard to say. As others have said, soccer has been the sport of the future since Pele came over here. I think it's on an upswing, but can we do anything with it?
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:46 pm to baybeefeetz
Soccer is at its peak right now. It might still continue to grow with the Latino population in the US but it's saturated the market know. It is not an unknown.
We have real entertainment in America. 90 minutes of teams kicking the ball away from the goal for a game to end in a 1-1 tie is not going to go fat in America.
We have real entertainment in America. 90 minutes of teams kicking the ball away from the goal for a game to end in a 1-1 tie is not going to go fat in America.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:55 pm to baybeefeetz
"We really don't care"
That's how the majority of casual fans in this country view soccer.
I don't follow MLB, Nascar, or the NHL but I know who the top players in those sports are.
Ask me who the top player in US soccer is and off the top of my head I'll probably say a member of the US women's soccer team.
I watch MLS and just see a bunch of fans trying hard to be like European fans, there is nothing unique to the US about that. Soccer in the US needs a homegrown phenom, on the level of Messi, Ronaldo to even be close to moving up that popularity ladder.
also soccer needs to be exposed to more kids at an early age, especially in the deep south.
That's how the majority of casual fans in this country view soccer.
I don't follow MLB, Nascar, or the NHL but I know who the top players in those sports are.
Ask me who the top player in US soccer is and off the top of my head I'll probably say a member of the US women's soccer team.
I watch MLS and just see a bunch of fans trying hard to be like European fans, there is nothing unique to the US about that. Soccer in the US needs a homegrown phenom, on the level of Messi, Ronaldo to even be close to moving up that popularity ladder.
also soccer needs to be exposed to more kids at an early age, especially in the deep south.
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:58 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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If I were going to watch a European team, which team would I follow and for what reason?
The advice that I give everyone who asks this question - just start by watching the teams that Americans play for. You're already invested (a little) in that guy's success, unless you're some kind of communist.
Eventually, either one of the Americans' teams or one of the opponents will draw your eye.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 10:00 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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is not going to go fat in America.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 10:05 pm to cheesesteak501
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Ya'll are mocking the whole "up and coming" thing but we've never had anywhere near this much youth talent before. MLS youth academies started less than 10 years ago, and that is how you will get an elite league.
Well we should.
It's been the #1 recreational sport for kids for like forever.
But the fact that we haven't made as much advancement as we should have despite kids playing it since the late 70's says there may be a ceiling.
I watch it, like it...but there is this thing where you feel it will never get our best athletes.
Soccer can one day be #4 but we will need a Ronaldo...or Messi to truly elevate the game and get fans interested.
As I posted before Harris Poll has NFL a clear runaway winner...followed by MLB and College Football.
So American football combined Pro and College combines for 50% of American fans saying this is their favorite sport.
Baseball and Basketball and NASCAR round out the rest.
American football dominates this country Pro and College. It's hard to see how that changes. You have a massively popular Pro league and a massively popular college experience where people think its pro. In fact, we have a long history in this country where college football was more popular.
Idk, but soccer has been pushed so hard forever and progress has been made but it shouldn't have taken this long if America really loved the sport.
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 7/13/16 at 10:05 pm to baybeefeetz
20 years ago, I didn't know soccer was a sport. Now, I'd say it's about a 3 on a scale of 1 to football.
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