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re: So what is the opinion on Russell Wilson?

Posted on 9/5/14 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by braud2go
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 6:04 pm to
Meh. He's Trent Dilfer with a 4.5
Posted by BRL79
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 6:29 pm to
After watching last nights game he is definitely a product of tremendous talent around him. Most of his big plays last night was the defense's overreaction to play action due to being afraid of Lynch and also having Harvin on the field. Add to that consistent short fields due to the defense and you have the key to a quarterback's success. Put him on an average team and he would be a very average quarterback.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 6:49 pm to
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It will be real interesting to see what happens when Wilson can go on the open market



He'll never hit the open market.


He's a top 5-6 QB. Reminds me of Steve Young.


As far as people comparing him to Brees. Physically Wilson is on another level. His wheels are much much better, and he has a top 5 NFL arm.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 6:49 pm to
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. Most of his big plays last night was the defense's overreaction to play action due to being afraid of Lynch and also having Harvin on the field. Add to that consistent short fields due to the defense and you have the key to a quarterback's success. Put him on an average team and he would be a very average quarterback


I think lots of people on here don't understand that those plays require timing, knowledge of the defense, patience, etc. It's not like it's an easy offense to install.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:00 pm to
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He's good but I wouldn't be surprised if Seattle doesn't give him 20 mil


They will. He is a hero up there.
Posted by BRL79
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:06 pm to
"I think lots of people on here don't understand that those plays require timing, knowledge of the defense, patience, etc. It's not like it's an easy offense to install."

Any starting QB in the league should be able to do these things. Please don't compare him to Young. That is a huge joke. Young had a record for consecutive 300 yard games for years. I don't think Wilson has ever had one that I can recall without looking it up
Posted by D011ahbi11
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:15 pm to
Wilson has three 300 yard regular season games in his career
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:27 pm to
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Any starting QB in the league should be able to do these things. Please don't compare him to Young. That is a huge joke. Young had a record for consecutive 300 yard games for years. I don't think Wilson has ever had one that I can recall without looking it up



1. I didn't compare him to Young.

2. I don't think the comparison is that far off.

3. Russell Wilson has passed for over 3,000 yards in both seasons, completing at a very good percentage and a fantastic QB rating, just like Steve Young.

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Any starting QB in the league should be able to do these things.


Yet very few QB's can do it effectively, if at all.
Posted by Ruxin
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:53 pm to
I don't see what's so funny about that statement.
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:58 pm to
Oh wow! Your right! Phew I sure am glad he's getting right over one 300 yard game per season.
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:59 pm to
"Yet very few QB's can do it effectively, if at all."

Yeah, pretending to give the ball to somebody is really complicated.

And by the way, 3,000 yards is a lot of yards, if it was 1975.

This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 8:01 pm
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:00 pm to
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Yeah, pretending to give the ball to somebody is really complicated.


You sound like an idiot.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:02 pm to
He's one of my favorite athletes.
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:02 pm to
Don't get pissed at me because you wanna suck RW off. He is a system quarterback surrounded by great talent and one of the best defenses in NFL history on the other side. You sir, sound like a loser with a man crush.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:24 pm to
You said selling the play action is not hard, that IS stupid and that's the only thing I commented on; I don't know where the rest of your post is coming from

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Don't get pissed at me because you wanna suck RW off. You sir, sound like a loser with a man crush.


You sound even dumber here

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surrounded by great talent and one of the best defenses in NFL history on the other side.


NO ONE has disputed this.

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He is a system quarterback


Is this expression overused or what
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
2966 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:30 pm to
Hey, you like to throw names around so I wanted to talk your language. Like I said earlier before you picked segments of my paragraph to comment on, if he was on an average team he would be an average QB. If he would have went to Indianapolis instead of Luck they still wouldn't have made it to the playoffs. He is on a team that wouldn't lose much steam if he went down with an injury. Would they be AS good? Probably not, but they still would be in the playoffs.
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 8:34 pm
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:46 pm to
Talent around him? He won a Super Bowl with Lynch and a bunch of crap WR and TE! But he did have a great defense.

It was nice to see him with Harvin in the lineup. He's a top 10 QB.

Tom Brady won a bunch of Superbowls with subpar offensive talent and great defenses also....JS
Posted by Boom Angry
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:08 pm to
Saints fans are so salty when it comes to the Seahawks
Posted by forksup
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:39 pm to
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Yeah, pretending to give the ball to somebody is really complicated




Anyways...

My opinion of him is he's an accurate passer, great game manager, and good situation scrambler. A negative is he's pretty short for a QB = swatted balls at the LOS, and I kind of want to see if Wilson can throw throw throw to win a game if all his RBs are a no go.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:50 pm to
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Oh wow! Your right! Phew I sure am glad he's getting right over one 300 yard game per season.
In the context of the Seahawks' system, to criticize Wilson for his lack of guady yardage numbers is missing the point. It's a run-first ball-control offense that when clicking on all cylinders is amongst the most efficient in all of football. Just because his team is so talented, balanced, and doesn't trail often doesn't mean he's not capable of putting up 300+ yard games if he was required to throw the ball 40+ times as opposed to 25+.
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 10:56 pm
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