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re: Rob Manfred wants four team divisions, interested in expanding to 32 MLB teams

Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:01 pm to
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:01 pm to
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There are to many teams already....


And games
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:02 pm to
I addressed that. It shows the bottom 5 teams who declined. 4 are historically bad teams and 1 just came off a terrible tv contract (Astros)

And that's from April 2015, before the Astros great season which probably boosted their numbers.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:03 pm to
I can't see dividing the braves, phils, and mets.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:04 pm to
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I addressed that. It shows the bottom 5 teams who declined. 4 are historically bad teams and 1 just came off a terrible tv contract (Astros)

And that's from April 2015, before the Astros great season which probably boosted their numbers.



You can be in denial all you want but that is a unbiased legit article that is pretty much saying TH03's opinion on the matter is dog shite.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:04 pm to
True. I was looking at it from geography a bit like BB03.

Depends on where they put the other expansion. I just used SA as an example
Posted by lsusa
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:05 pm to
Expansion would be great.

Then either eliminate or greatly cut back on interleague play.

Ensure the NL doesn't get the DH.











Oh, and get off my lawn!
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:05 pm to
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expansion


Son freaking dumb.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145085 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:06 pm to
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Ensure the NL doesn't get the DH.

over my dead fricking body
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:08 pm to
East
Philadelphia Phillies
Washington Nationals
Pittsburgh Pirates
New York Mets

North
Chicago Cubs
St. Louis Cardinals
Cincinnati Reds
Milwaukee Brewers

West
Los Angeles Dodgers
Arizona Diamondbacks
San Diego Padres
San Francisco Giants

South
Atlanta Braves
Miami Marlins
Charlotte/Nashville/San Antonio expansion team


Having trouble coming up with the last NL South team. Something easy to do would be to move the Rockies to the AL West (not a lot of history tying them to the NL), and the Royals to the AL South. But then you'd have to have two expansion teams in the NL South, along with the Braves and Marlins, so that would never work.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:09 pm to
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13SaintTiger
ignorance is a bliss
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202693 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:10 pm to
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Ensure the NL doesn't get the DH.




This should never happen... They should actually do away with it in the AL IMO.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:12 pm to
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ignorance is a bliss



Do you deny the link I posted?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:14 pm to
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Based on our report just days ago, there was an average of 148 games aired during the regular season on regional sports networks. Not only has supply dramatically increased over the years, but over 90 percent of regular season games are aired on regional sports networks. This has turned baseball into a regional phenomenon. Baseball dominates prime time television at the cable and broadcast levels on these RSNs. Of the 30 teams in Major League Baseball, eleven—more than one-third of the league—had the highest-rated, most-watched local programming in prime time on both broadcast and cable. And overall, 17 MLB teams—over half the league—rank in the top 3 in local prime time (7p-11p) TV ratings on their respective RSNs. So, the question is, is baseball interest lowering nationally, or growing vastly at the regional level? As The AP story notes:

All of those numbers have made the regional sports networks more valuable to cable and satellite providers. And because each channel makes much of its revenue from fees those providers pay to carry it, the audience demographics don’t affect profits in the way they do for the traditional broadcast networks, which rely more on advertisers who want to reach younger viewers. In other words, baseball’s older viewership is less of a problem for regional sports networks.







quote:

If an industry is “dying” it would show in the ledger. Last season MLB saw gross revenues of over $8 billion, and the expectation is it will reach $10 billion within a year or two. The reason for this goes back to attendance, and television. At the local level, teams are individually seeing lucrative broadcast deals, while the league sees national broadcast revenue from ESPN, TBS, and FOX at $1.5 billion annually. On top of that, MLB’s digital media company MLB Advanced Media expects to see revenues hit $1 billion annually in the very near future (see The Biggest Media Company You’ve Never Heard Of). That means MLB could soon catch the National Football League (it’s possible, but the NFL is attempting to target $25 billion by 2027), who saw approx. $10 billion in gross revenues last season. MLB is still far ahead of the NBA, who saw $5 billion in revenues for 2013, and light years ahead of the NHL who reportedly had record revenues of $3.7 billion.

Don’t be stupid, “dying sports” don’t earn that kind of revenue.
LINK
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145085 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:15 pm to
peej when youre right, youre right
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202693 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:17 pm to
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peej when youre right, youre right



I have hated the DH since the AL came up with it in 1973...... They used to have some pitchers that were pretty good hitters....
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:20 pm to
I deny the aspect that baseball is dying when it is thriving... your article list the lowest local markets and guess what they all have in common, THE WORST TEAMS IN THE SPORT.... You can do the same with the bottom teams in the NBA, their local rating will be HORRIBLE while the top teams will post above average viewership. The only sport immune is the NFL and that is mainly because of 16 games and the gambling involved in football.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:20 pm to
A lot of this will key around where the A's move if they don't get a new stadium

New idea:

AL East
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Toronto Blue Jays
Baltimore Orioles

AL North
Chicago White Sox
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
Minnesota Twins

AL West
Los Angeles Angels
Seattle Mariners
Oakland Athletics
Colorado Rockies

AL South
Kansas City Royals
Texas Rangers
Tampa Bay Rays
Nashville/Charlotte/SA expansion team

NL East
New York Mets
Washington Nationals
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates

NL North
Chicago Cubs
St. Louis Cardinals
Cincinnati Reds
Milwaukee Brewers

NL West
San Francisco Giants
Los Angeles Dodgers
San Diego Padres
Arizona Diamondbacks

NL South
Houston Astros
Atlanta Braves
Miami Marlins
Nashville/Charlotte/SA expansion team


Things people will complain about:
1) Splitting up the Barves from the rest of the NL East. I think people would get over it. Now that the Barves aren't on TBS anymore, they just don't feel as important. And I really don't think people from Atlanta will care all too much, considering they stop supporting the team halfway through the summer anyway.

2) Moving the Rockies to the AL West. Like I said, no real history with the NL. Wouldn't be that big of a deal.

3) Moving the Astros back to the NL. Considering both leagues will have the DH soon, I think most Astros fans wouldn't care. They'd be pissed about the constant switching the league has made them do, but they'd get over it. Astros/Braves would turn into a nice little rivalry.

4) Why am I doing this by geography? You certainly don't have to, but I just figured that would make things easier.
Posted by Dale Murphy
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Member since Feb 2005
24457 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:21 pm to
In before the baseball hate.



Oh, too late. Already in the first reply.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:23 pm to
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hey should actually do away with it in the AL IMO.
disagree 100% it has given players such as David Ortiz, Paul Molitar, Dave Winnfield, Frank Thomas, among others a chance to continue to play and enhance their HoF careers.... Thomas played more games as a DH than he did as a 1B.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94379 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 6:28 pm to
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East
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Toronto Blue Jays
Baltimore Orioles

North
Chicago White Sox
Minnesota Twins
Detroit Tigers
Cleveland Indians

West
Los Angeles Angles
Seattle Mariners
Oakland Athletics
Kansas City Royals

South
Houston Astros
Texas Rangers
Tampa Bay Rays
Charlotte/Nashville/San Antonio expansion franchise




So much yes. I hate that most of the Astros divisional road games start at fricking 9 o'clock. Bud Selig can suck so much dick. "Well the Rangers are getting fricked in that division so lets frick another team that doesn't fit geographically in this division."
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