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re: Post your top 15 players in NBA history in this thread

Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:21 pm to
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:21 pm to
1. Bill Russell
2. Michael Jordan
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Lebron James
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Larry Bird
11. Julius Erving
12. Oscar Robertson
13. Kobe Bryant
14. Jerry West
15. David Robinson

It's funny how people don't mention Russell in the GOAT conversation because he was "mediocre" offensively. I don't hear anybody take Gretzky out of the GOAT conversation because he didn't worry about checking or playing defense. Nobody says Babe Ruth isn't the GOAT because he was fat and couldn't field his position very well. People never put down Lionel Messi's defensive abilities when they debate his place in history. Bill Russell on defense was similar to those players abilities on offense. He was so good defensively that his impact on the court was greater than everybody else to play the game including Lebron and Jordan. The Celtics constantly changed personnel around Russell over the years yet they continued to win. They had flawed defensive players around him like Cousy and Heinsohn yet they were always #1 in DRTG usually by a wide margin. His record in elimination games was 17-2. His record in Game 7's was 10-0. Nobody was more clutch, nobody was a better leader and nobody was a greater pro basketball player than William Felton Russell.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:26 pm to
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It's funny how people don't mention Russell in the GOAT conversation because he was "mediocre" offensively.


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Posted by Zee Nuts
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:36 pm to
1) Jordan
2) Wilt
3) Bird
4) Jabbar
5) Russell
6) Shaq
7) Dirk
8) Kobe
9) Oscar
10) LeBron
11) West
12) Magic
13) West
14) Erving
15) Darko
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:39 pm to
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Bill Russell


I'd love to know how many blocks he had. It's a shame they didn't record them back then.
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13722 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:46 pm to
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Russell in the GOAT conversation


I just think everything he has done, while great, is hard to compare when there were 8 teams in the league.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15962 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:56 pm to
Only rating the ones I saw play
1. Magic Johnson: played 1 through 5; could score, pass and rebound
2. Lebron
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Michael Jordan
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Larry Bird
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Tim Duncan
9. Karl Malone
10. Julius Erving
11. Barkley
12. Shaquille O'Neal: if he could shoot 65% from the foul line, would be #1
13. Moses Malone
14. John Stockton
15. Ewing
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:00 pm to
When this list is redone in 20 years, LeBron will be at least #2 and Kevin Durant will be somewhere between 5 and 8.
Posted by MSUbulldogs03
Member since Apr 2013
2644 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:00 pm to
1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. LeBron
5. Wilt
6. Kobe
7. Bird
8. Bill Russell
9. Shaq
10. Duncan
11. Oscar Robinson
13. Malone
14. Jerry West
15. Hakeem

1-7 are tough.
Posted by MSUbulldogs03
Member since Apr 2013
2644 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:04 pm to
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The Raper and AIDs are both too high
Magic is no doubt a top 5 player of the NBA.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:06 pm to
Did the NBA start in 1966?
Posted by MSUbulldogs03
Member since Apr 2013
2644 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:10 pm to
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4. Michael Jordan
Have never in my life heard anyone try to justify Jordan being any higher than number 2 greatest ever. Only on TD.
Posted by AlbertMeansWell
Member since Sep 2013
5555 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:21 pm to
Mine:

1. Michael Jordan
2A. Magic Johnson
2B. Kobe Bryant
4. KAJ
5. Bill Russell
6. Lebron James
7. Wilt
8. Larry Bird
9. Tim Duncan
10. Shaq
11. Hakeem
12. Dr. J
13. Karl Malone
14. Clyde Drexler
15. Dirk
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31084 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:21 pm to
I like the list. There may a couple slight changes I would make, but you probably got the right 15.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:29 pm to
The Admiral, David Robinson
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75603 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

1. Kobe Bryant


Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5320 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

It's funny how people don't mention Russell in the GOAT conversation because he was "mediocre" offensively. I don't hear anybody take Gretzky out of the GOAT conversation because he didn't worry about checking or playing defense. Nobody says Babe Ruth isn't the GOAT because he was fat and couldn't field his position very well. People never put down Lionel Messi's defensive abilities when they debate his place in history. Bill Russell on defense was similar to those players abilities on offense. He was so good defensively that his impact on the court was greater than everybody else to play the game including Lebron and Jordan. The Celtics constantly changed personnel around Russell over the years yet they continued to win. They had flawed defensive players around him like Cousy and Heinsohn yet they were always #1 in DRTG usually by a wide margin. His record in elimination games was 17-2. His record in Game 7's was 10-0. Nobody was more clutch, nobody was a better leader and nobody was a greater pro basketball player than William Felton Russell.


This is the damned truth. Nice list btw, I'd put wilt/michael/magic as all tied for 4. And lebron may get higher by end of his career but right now maybe 7 or 8.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

It's funny how people don't mention Russell in the GOAT conversation because he was "mediocre" offensively. 


So I guess you have Bob Cousey top 10?

My list in order of who is take in their prime. Russell had one of the best careers ever but Shaq would have destroyed every record known to man in the era.


1. Jordan
2. Shaq
3. Magic
4. Hakeem
5. Lebron
6. Kareem
7. Russell
8. Bird
9. Duncan
10. Wilt
11. Robertson
12. Dr. J
13. Kobe
14. Karl Malone
15. West
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278628 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 8:38 pm to
1. Lebron James
2. Michael Jordan
3. Shaq
4. Magic Johnson
5. Bill Russell
6. Larry Bird
7. Wilt
8. Kareem
9. Oscar Robertson
10. Hakeem
11. Tim Duncan
12. Kobe
13. Charles Barkley
14. Isiah Thomas
15. Dwyane Wade
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
2343 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 8:40 pm to
The lack of KG on these lists is rather disturbing.

Jordan

Russell/Kareem/Duncan

Shaq/LeBron/Wilt/Magic

Bird/Hakeem/KG

Kobe/Robertson/Dirk/Dr. J

Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145248 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 8:42 pm to
duncan is not a better player than shaq
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