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re: Post your top 15 players in NBA history in this thread
Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:21 pm to NorthGAVol
Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:21 pm to NorthGAVol
1. Bill Russell
2. Michael Jordan
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Lebron James
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Larry Bird
11. Julius Erving
12. Oscar Robertson
13. Kobe Bryant
14. Jerry West
15. David Robinson
It's funny how people don't mention Russell in the GOAT conversation because he was "mediocre" offensively. I don't hear anybody take Gretzky out of the GOAT conversation because he didn't worry about checking or playing defense. Nobody says Babe Ruth isn't the GOAT because he was fat and couldn't field his position very well. People never put down Lionel Messi's defensive abilities when they debate his place in history. Bill Russell on defense was similar to those players abilities on offense. He was so good defensively that his impact on the court was greater than everybody else to play the game including Lebron and Jordan. The Celtics constantly changed personnel around Russell over the years yet they continued to win. They had flawed defensive players around him like Cousy and Heinsohn yet they were always #1 in DRTG usually by a wide margin. His record in elimination games was 17-2. His record in Game 7's was 10-0. Nobody was more clutch, nobody was a better leader and nobody was a greater pro basketball player than William Felton Russell.
2. Michael Jordan
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson
5. Lebron James
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Larry Bird
11. Julius Erving
12. Oscar Robertson
13. Kobe Bryant
14. Jerry West
15. David Robinson
It's funny how people don't mention Russell in the GOAT conversation because he was "mediocre" offensively. I don't hear anybody take Gretzky out of the GOAT conversation because he didn't worry about checking or playing defense. Nobody says Babe Ruth isn't the GOAT because he was fat and couldn't field his position very well. People never put down Lionel Messi's defensive abilities when they debate his place in history. Bill Russell on defense was similar to those players abilities on offense. He was so good defensively that his impact on the court was greater than everybody else to play the game including Lebron and Jordan. The Celtics constantly changed personnel around Russell over the years yet they continued to win. They had flawed defensive players around him like Cousy and Heinsohn yet they were always #1 in DRTG usually by a wide margin. His record in elimination games was 17-2. His record in Game 7's was 10-0. Nobody was more clutch, nobody was a better leader and nobody was a greater pro basketball player than William Felton Russell.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:26 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:
It's funny how people don't mention Russell in the GOAT conversation because he was "mediocre" offensively.
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:36 pm to NorthGAVol
1) Jordan
2) Wilt
3) Bird
4) Jabbar
5) Russell
6) Shaq
7) Dirk
8) Kobe
9) Oscar
10) LeBron
11) West
12) Magic
13) West
14) Erving
15) Darko
2) Wilt
3) Bird
4) Jabbar
5) Russell
6) Shaq
7) Dirk
8) Kobe
9) Oscar
10) LeBron
11) West
12) Magic
13) West
14) Erving
15) Darko
Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:39 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:
Bill Russell
I'd love to know how many blocks he had. It's a shame they didn't record them back then.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:46 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:
Russell in the GOAT conversation
I just think everything he has done, while great, is hard to compare when there were 8 teams in the league.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 6:56 pm to NorthGAVol
Only rating the ones I saw play
1. Magic Johnson: played 1 through 5; could score, pass and rebound
2. Lebron
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Michael Jordan
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Larry Bird
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Tim Duncan
9. Karl Malone
10. Julius Erving
11. Barkley
12. Shaquille O'Neal: if he could shoot 65% from the foul line, would be #1
13. Moses Malone
14. John Stockton
15. Ewing
1. Magic Johnson: played 1 through 5; could score, pass and rebound
2. Lebron
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Michael Jordan
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Larry Bird
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Tim Duncan
9. Karl Malone
10. Julius Erving
11. Barkley
12. Shaquille O'Neal: if he could shoot 65% from the foul line, would be #1
13. Moses Malone
14. John Stockton
15. Ewing
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:00 pm to makersmark1
When this list is redone in 20 years, LeBron will be at least #2 and Kevin Durant will be somewhere between 5 and 8.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:00 pm to NorthGAVol
1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. LeBron
5. Wilt
6. Kobe
7. Bird
8. Bill Russell
9. Shaq
10. Duncan
11. Oscar Robinson
13. Malone
14. Jerry West
15. Hakeem
1-7 are tough.
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. LeBron
5. Wilt
6. Kobe
7. Bird
8. Bill Russell
9. Shaq
10. Duncan
11. Oscar Robinson
13. Malone
14. Jerry West
15. Hakeem
1-7 are tough.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:04 pm to Legendary0903
quote:Magic is no doubt a top 5 player of the NBA.
The Raper and AIDs are both too high
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:06 pm to MSUbulldogs03
Did the NBA start in 1966?
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:10 pm to makersmark1
quote:Have never in my life heard anyone try to justify Jordan being any higher than number 2 greatest ever. Only on TD.
4. Michael Jordan
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:21 pm to NorthGAVol
Mine:
1. Michael Jordan
2A. Magic Johnson
2B. Kobe Bryant
4. KAJ
5. Bill Russell
6. Lebron James
7. Wilt
8. Larry Bird
9. Tim Duncan
10. Shaq
11. Hakeem
12. Dr. J
13. Karl Malone
14. Clyde Drexler
15. Dirk
1. Michael Jordan
2A. Magic Johnson
2B. Kobe Bryant
4. KAJ
5. Bill Russell
6. Lebron James
7. Wilt
8. Larry Bird
9. Tim Duncan
10. Shaq
11. Hakeem
12. Dr. J
13. Karl Malone
14. Clyde Drexler
15. Dirk
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:21 pm to NorthGAVol
I like the list. There may a couple slight changes I would make, but you probably got the right 15.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:29 pm to NorthGAVol
The Admiral, David Robinson
Posted on 6/7/15 at 7:29 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
1. Kobe Bryant
Posted on 6/7/15 at 8:10 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:
It's funny how people don't mention Russell in the GOAT conversation because he was "mediocre" offensively. I don't hear anybody take Gretzky out of the GOAT conversation because he didn't worry about checking or playing defense. Nobody says Babe Ruth isn't the GOAT because he was fat and couldn't field his position very well. People never put down Lionel Messi's defensive abilities when they debate his place in history. Bill Russell on defense was similar to those players abilities on offense. He was so good defensively that his impact on the court was greater than everybody else to play the game including Lebron and Jordan. The Celtics constantly changed personnel around Russell over the years yet they continued to win. They had flawed defensive players around him like Cousy and Heinsohn yet they were always #1 in DRTG usually by a wide margin. His record in elimination games was 17-2. His record in Game 7's was 10-0. Nobody was more clutch, nobody was a better leader and nobody was a greater pro basketball player than William Felton Russell.
This is the damned truth. Nice list btw, I'd put wilt/michael/magic as all tied for 4. And lebron may get higher by end of his career but right now maybe 7 or 8.
Posted on 6/7/15 at 8:30 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:
It's funny how people don't mention Russell in the GOAT conversation because he was "mediocre" offensively.
So I guess you have Bob Cousey top 10?
My list in order of who is take in their prime. Russell had one of the best careers ever but Shaq would have destroyed every record known to man in the era.
1. Jordan
2. Shaq
3. Magic
4. Hakeem
5. Lebron
6. Kareem
7. Russell
8. Bird
9. Duncan
10. Wilt
11. Robertson
12. Dr. J
13. Kobe
14. Karl Malone
15. West
Posted on 6/7/15 at 8:38 pm to NorthGAVol
1. Lebron James
2. Michael Jordan
3. Shaq
4. Magic Johnson
5. Bill Russell
6. Larry Bird
7. Wilt
8. Kareem
9. Oscar Robertson
10. Hakeem
11. Tim Duncan
12. Kobe
13. Charles Barkley
14. Isiah Thomas
15. Dwyane Wade
2. Michael Jordan
3. Shaq
4. Magic Johnson
5. Bill Russell
6. Larry Bird
7. Wilt
8. Kareem
9. Oscar Robertson
10. Hakeem
11. Tim Duncan
12. Kobe
13. Charles Barkley
14. Isiah Thomas
15. Dwyane Wade
Posted on 6/7/15 at 8:40 pm to NorthGAVol
The lack of KG on these lists is rather disturbing.
Jordan
Russell/Kareem/Duncan
Shaq/LeBron/Wilt/Magic
Bird/Hakeem/KG
Kobe/Robertson/Dirk/Dr. J
Jordan
Russell/Kareem/Duncan
Shaq/LeBron/Wilt/Magic
Bird/Hakeem/KG
Kobe/Robertson/Dirk/Dr. J
Posted on 6/7/15 at 8:42 pm to imraged
duncan is not a better player than shaq
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