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PFT: NFL views DET situation as Lions trying "deception that backfired"; no changes coming
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:37 am
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:37 am
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Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the NFL does not plan to change the procedure for players reporting as eligible. The league views the situation as an effort by the Lions to engage in deception and gamesmanship that backfired.
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Basically, the Lions wanted the Cowboys to think Skipper was reporting as eligible and that Decker was not. Which would have caused the Cowboys to cover Skipper, not Decker, when the play unfolded. The problem is that, in trying to confuse the Cowboys, the Lions confused Allen.
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All I got from this is the NFL thinks their officials are dumbasses who get confused easily.
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Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:39 am to Kinderman
Ha that’s awesome.
How bout them cowboys. I see it the exact same way.
How bout them cowboys. I see it the exact same way.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:40 am to Kinderman
Damn you mean teams actively engage in deception of the opponent.
Better ban play action and the read option before the officials get confused.
Better ban play action and the read option before the officials get confused.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:44 am to jlovel7
The MSB is gonna be entertaining when the Cowboys inevitably lose in the playoffs
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:45 am to Kinderman
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Basically, the Lions wanted the Cowboys to think Skipper was reporting as eligible and that Decker was not. Which would have caused the Cowboys to cover Skipper, not Decker, when the play unfolded. The problem is that, in trying to confuse the Cowboys, the Lions confused Allen.
The problem is only one of them actually tells the ref that he's reporting so you basically have to be a moron to get confused, so of course the ref got confused.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:46 am to Swagga
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Better ban play action and the read option before the officials get confused.
That deception doesn’t involve a third party.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:47 am to Kinderman
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problem is that, in trying to confuse the Cowboys, the Lions confused Allen.
Calling their own official a dumbass
They already said they downgraded the crew so they know they fricked it up. This is a sad spin to try to protect them
This is going to set the Lions and Campbell off even more
This post was edited on 1/1/24 at 10:49 am
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:48 am to Eighteen
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:53 am to saintsfan22
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The problem is only one of them actually tells the ref that he's reporting so you basically have to be a moron to get confused, so of course the ref got confused.
The play was successful since it was intended to confuse but it only confused the ref.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:57 am to Kinderman
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Think about it. “Look,” Campbell might have said, “we’ve got a play in the game plan tonight that includes throwing a pass to a tackle. But here’s what we’re gonna do. We’ll be making it look like a different guy is reporting as eligible than the one who is really reporting as eligible, because we want to confuse the Cowboys about who is and isn’t eligible. So when that happens, go along with it, OK?”
This is an idiotic play from Dan Campbell, the ref still has to announce the eligible lineman which would erase the deception immediately.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:58 am to Kinderman
It’s Mike Florio, so I’d take to with a grain of salt.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:59 am to Eighteen
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This is going to set the Lions and Campbell off even more
Good. I hope they play with a chip on their shoulder the rest of the year and get the opportunity to arse blast the Cowboys in the playoffs.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:00 am to Kinderman
The mental gymnastics the NFL goes through to absolve officials of any blame is impressive.
It’s wild when you think about it. You have a group of people who play a huge role in the outcomes of games and at no point are they ever held responsible for mistakes and if anyone even dares criticize them they get fined by the league. Amazing.
It’s wild when you think about it. You have a group of people who play a huge role in the outcomes of games and at no point are they ever held responsible for mistakes and if anyone even dares criticize them they get fined by the league. Amazing.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:01 am to Kinderman
Since Goff was on the other end of this, I'm ok with it despite the obvious cheating that occurred.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:02 am to High C
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Good. I hope they play with a chip on their shoulder the rest of the year and get the opportunity to arse blast the Cowboys in the playoffs.
They better come up with better 2-point plays
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:04 am to bad93ex
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This is an idiotic play from Dan Campbell, the ref still has to announce the eligible lineman which would erase the deception immediately.
The true “trick” behind the play was they sent #58 and #68 to report, and apparently Campbell had been saying in pressers for the past few weeks about getting #58 involved more and talking about his “good hands”
So assuming the Cowboys coaching staff was scouting they might have been on alert for #58, and then having the Cowboys hopefully mix up #58 and #68
#70 wasn’t even part of the trick play at all the official is just a lazy moron
This post was edited on 1/1/24 at 11:05 am
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:06 am to Eighteen
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#70 wasn’t even part of the trick play at all the official is just a lazy moron
If he doesn’t run at the ref motioning his arms as if he were reporting as eligible then it works.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:08 am to bad93ex
that’s complete conjecture on your part you can’t even tell if the ref looks at him. all he does is run in to #58 and #68 and go straight to the huddle
and that would be, presumably, immediately after #68 had just said he was reporting as eligible. why wouldn’t Allen clarify? none of it makes sense
and that would be, presumably, immediately after #68 had just said he was reporting as eligible. why wouldn’t Allen clarify? none of it makes sense
This post was edited on 1/1/24 at 11:09 am
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:09 am to Eighteen
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that’s complete conjecture on your part you can’t even tell if the ref looks at him. all he does is run in to #58 and #68 and go straight to the huddle
Go back and watch, ref is looking directly at #70 and then he informs the defense and announces him as eligible.
This post was edited on 1/1/24 at 11:11 am
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:31 am to Kinderman
FYI this ignores the BS tripping call that kept Dallas from icing the game.
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