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re: Olbermann calls out Jeter Lovefest...I suprisingly agree
Posted on 9/24/14 at 1:14 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 9/24/14 at 1:14 pm to Lester Earl
And you almost never see players talk shite about one another in interviews.
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 4:06 pm to titmouse
Olbermann is back at it destroying Jeter today. 
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:49 pm to titmouse
ESPN just said Jeter was the 3rd greatest shortstop of ALL-TIME!
Mothership gone crazy. Actually, it was that guy Tim...
And that 6th greatest Yankee????
Ruth, Gherig, Mantle, DiMaggio, Berra, Ford, Mattingly?
Rivera?
Mothership gone crazy. Actually, it was that guy Tim...
And that 6th greatest Yankee????
Ruth, Gherig, Mantle, DiMaggio, Berra, Ford, Mattingly?
Rivera?
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:51 pm to titmouse
I think I could name a dozen short stops that have been better in their primes vs Jeter prime in current era.
Did they win as much as the Yanks did? No.
So naturally a bunch of tards think Jeter is one of the best.
Longevity? He is one of the best.
Did they win as much as the Yanks did? No.
So naturally a bunch of tards think Jeter is one of the best.
Longevity? He is one of the best.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:11 pm to Cajun Revolution
Name them. MLB scouts will love your answer. Go.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:55 pm to Cajun Revolution
Jeter is an all-time great. The guy has over 3400 hits. End of story.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:05 pm to Kritten
Vizquel
Hanley Ramirez
Troy Tulowitzki
Trammel
Yount
Larkin
Oz smith
Ripken
Nomar
A-Rod
Rollins
Tejada
There. That's 12. And if you don't want to count Yount, add Ed Renteria to that list.
Hanley Ramirez
Troy Tulowitzki
Trammel
Yount
Larkin
Oz smith
Ripken
Nomar
A-Rod
Rollins
Tejada
There. That's 12. And if you don't want to count Yount, add Ed Renteria to that list.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:12 pm to Baloo
quote:in fairness, his OPS+ is also higher.
He also played in a much higher run scoring environment. This is like pointing out a pitcher who had a lower ERA during the 60s. Sure, it's true, but it's not that meaningful -- context matters.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:27 pm to Cajun Revolution
May be the craziest post ever. Keep your day job and I'll keep mine.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:31 pm to Kritten
I'd put their prime years up against Jeter's, tard.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:37 pm to Cajun Revolution
You would be in small company, very small.
Ask the Astros about the biggest franchise mistake ever. In their prime, as in if I close one eye and pretend to ignore reality?
Ask the Astros about the biggest franchise mistake ever. In their prime, as in if I close one eye and pretend to ignore reality?
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:51 pm to BayouBengals03
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3,461 This, of course, is Derek Jeter’s hit total. And holy, schmoly, that’s a lot of hits. Heck, it’s more than Hank Greenberg and Shoeless Joe Jackson combined (3,400). And only five men in the history of baseball had more hits than Derek Jeter. See if they sound familiar: Pete Rose, Ty Cobb, Hank Aaron, Stan Musial and Tris Speaker. Wow.
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1,013 Can’t figure out why I love this so much, but whatever. Derek Jeter will finish his career with more than 1,000 multihit games. More than Tony Gwynn or Wade Boggs. More than Willie Mays or Rogers Hornsby. In fact, just three other hitters in the entire live ball era finished their careers in the 1,000 Multihit Game Club: Pete Rose (1,225), Stan Musial (1,059) and Hank Aaron (1,046). Pretty fair top of the order.
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200 One of the most special Jeter numbers of them all. Why? Because he’s the only man in history who ever got 200 hits in the postseason alone. Now obviously, he got several more opportunities to get those hits than, say, Ernie Banks. But let’s put this in better perspective. In 158 postseason games, roughly the equivalent of a full season, Jeter wound up with 200 hits, 20 homers, 18 steals, a .308 batting average, a .374 on-base percentage and an .838 OPS. So how many active players have ever had a regular season like that? Exactly five. And one of them is (guess who?) Derek Jeter. Who of course also had a "season" like that in October. Against the best teams and the best pitchers, in the most pressurized games of his life. Don't tell me that's overrated.
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200 One of the most special Jeter numbers of them all. Why? Because he’s the only man in history who ever got 200 hits in the postseason alone. Now obviously, he got several more opportunities to get those hits than, say, Ernie Banks. But let’s put this in better perspective. In 158 postseason games, roughly the equivalent of a full season, Jeter wound up with 200 hits, 20 homers, 18 steals, a .308 batting average, a .374 on-base percentage and an .838 OPS. So how many active players have ever had a regular season like that? Exactly five. And one of them is (guess who?) Derek Jeter. Who of course also had a "season" like that in October. Against the best teams and the best pitchers, in the most pressurized games of his life. Don't tell me that's overrated.
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.377 Oh, all right, all right, I know that batting average isn't one of those stats that impresses the cool kids anymore. So how about this one? It’s Derek Jeter's career on-base percentage. And if you're not sure what to make of it, I can help. Since World War II, three dozen men have played at least 1,500 games at shortstop. You know how many of them had a higher career OBP than Jeter? Not one. Cal Ripken Jr. finished with a .340 OBP. Ozzie Smith wound up at .337. Alan Trammell had a .352 OBP. Among the shortstops of Jeter's lifetime, only Barry Larkin was even close, at .371.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:58 pm to Cajun Revolution
Someone that would take Renteria's prime over Jeter's just called someone else a tard. You can't make this shite up.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:00 pm to tduecen
quote:
.377 Oh, all right, all right, I know that batting average isn't one of those stats that impresses the cool kids anymore. So how about this one? It’s Derek Jeter's career on-base percentage. And if you're not sure what to make of it, I can help. Since World War II, three dozen men have played at least 1,500 games at shortstop. You know how many of them had a higher career OBP than Jeter? Not one. Cal Ripken Jr. finished with a .340 OBP. Ozzie Smith wound up at .337. Alan Trammell had a .352 OBP. Among the shortstops of Jeter's lifetime, only Barry Larkin was even close, at .371.
this is pretty fricking telling
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:05 pm to Lester Earl
The 200 one is pretty amazing as well
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:05 pm to Lester Earl
Eyes wide open. It really does work.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:07 pm to tduecen
Being clutch is nearly always overrated; Jeter is one of the few exceptions.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:33 pm to Louie T
So the you ignore the entire list and point out the alternate. The MSB, great.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:52 pm to Cajun Revolution
quote:
Vizquel
Hanley Ramirez
Troy Tulowitzki
Trammel
Yount
Larkin
Oz smith
Ripken
Nomar
A-Rod
Rollins
Tejada
There. That's 12. And if you don't want to count Yount, add Ed Renteria to that list.
Holy frick, this is astronomically bad.
You try to list the best SS of all-time and leave out Honus Wagner, Luke Appling, and Arky Vaughan. Those are some of the only guys ahead of Jeter. The only other ones really that are in the mix for best SS (in no order) are Ripken, A-Rod, Larkin, and Ozzie Smith.
Hanley, Rollins, and Tejada are laughable compared to Jeter. Omar is not too close, but he was an incredible defender and pieced together an impressive career (a bit shy of HOF worthy). Tulo is an excellent player, but he will not have the same career Jeter had.
As a shortstop, Jeter did some incredible things at the plate. 260 home runs, 358 steals, slashed .309/.377/.440, career wOBA of .360, and a wRC+ of 119 (essentially saying Jeter was 19% more productive than the average hitter at producing runs neutralized both by league and ballpark).
Jeter's shortcomings as a fielder had nothing to do with his throwing or catching abilities. He handled his chances very well. However, it was his range (and possibly first instinct) that was lacking.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 12:13 am to Vicks Kennel Club
Current era, brah. Current era.
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