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Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:31 pm to Keys Open Doors
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I don't know the technicalities of the ruling but is it saying somewhere that only scholarship players would get the unionized benefits?
He's just pointing out one of the very obvious practical problems with what you have described as long overdue and a good thing.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:32 pm to Moustache
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Will they just be paid and then be forced to pay their tuition, fees, uniforms, etc.? Will uniforms and benefits like shoes, juice, gym access be taxed as income similar to a company car? Or will those things like tutors be deducted from pay?
Ooh will players be fined for things such as showing up late for practice or violating curfew?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:32 pm to Keys Open Doors
So, since they will essentially be employees, is it fair to pay the starting QB more $ than the backup MLB?
What about when it comes to recruiting or offering benefits? Could you offer a guy you project as a starter a "bonus" or more perks similar to the working world?
What about when it comes to recruiting or offering benefits? Could you offer a guy you project as a starter a "bonus" or more perks similar to the working world?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:33 pm to Baloo
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Now, they can collectively bargain as a unit for health care, benefits, and.... pay.
and promptly be banned from competing
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:33 pm to goldennugget
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However I did get 3 concussions during my time there playing receiver on the scout team. Should I be entitled to the same pay and benefits and healthcare as the scholarship layers who contributed on game day?
Hey with the right union, you would have been a starter in your fourth year!
Serious quesetion though, what DID you do for healthcare?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:34 pm to quail man
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yes, all players would be part of the union
Which is why it is a bad idea
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:34 pm to Moustache
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Could you offer a guy you project as a starter a "bonus" or more perks similar to the working world?
Or more importantly, could you prevent any school from doing so? Would the classification of players as employees prohibit the types of rules in place?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:34 pm to Keys Open Doors
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I don't know the technicalities of the ruling but is it saying somewhere that only scholarship players would get the unionized benefits?
I forgot where but I read this only applied to scholarship players
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:35 pm to ironsides
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Serious quesetion though, what DID you do for healthcare?
Well all my medical care was covered by the athletic department when I was a player, but was on my own upon graduating.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:36 pm to goldennugget
I still think D.C. slaps this down. Regional Directors can do a lot of crazy stuff that gets squashed by the Board itself.
What would be super chaotic is having some schools vote yes on unionization while others don't, so you have student athletes completing against paid athletes.
What would be super chaotic is having some schools vote yes on unionization while others don't, so you have student athletes completing against paid athletes.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:37 pm to ironsides
quote:This is not directed to you:
Serious quesetion though, what DID you do for healthcare?
Every single NCAA athlete right now, whether a walk on on the swim team or Heisman contender, is fully covered medically by the university. Hell, when I was at LSU i was able to get my wisdom teeth covered. Dont let these athletes fool you. We had it easy. Paying them wont solve any of the so called "problems" they face
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:37 pm to moneyg
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Disagree that the status quo is ridiculous.
The Status Quo is insane. There is only one reason why Les Miles is making $5 million a year. It's because Odell Beckham III, Jarvis Landry, Mettenberger, etc are essentially costing the university $50,000 or so a year in terms of travel costs, scholarships, etc. The coaches get all of the benefits in the current situation and really none of the costs. College sports revenues are going through the roof. Position coaches are making (inflation-adjusted) salaries that are double what head coaches were making 25 years ago. Yet the players (calling them student-athletes is as much of a farce as the coaches' salaries) are getting none of the increased revenue.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:37 pm to Bunk Moreland
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What would be super chaotic is having some schools vote yes on unionization while others don't, so you have student athletes completing against paid athletes.
i don't see how "paid employees" will be allowed to compete. that would clearly violate NCAA rules
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:38 pm to OFWHAP
So, even though a player knows the risks and assumes those risks and is compensated with 6 figures over a 4 year period, the universities will have to cover health care for life for all athletes, not just football players?
That's essentially what they want. Most ADs do not make enough money for this.
That's essentially what they want. Most ADs do not make enough money for this.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
NLRB said it only applies to private universities.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:39 pm to Keys Open Doors
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Yet the players (calling them student-athletes is as much of a farce as the coaches' salaries) are getting none of the increased revenue.
a. nobody forced them to agree to the terms, yet they did
b. OBJ, Landry, Mett, etc are in a much better financial position now than they were prior to joining an NCAA member institution. they gained the opportunity to join an elite industry that pays a butt frick ton of money to its biggest performers
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:39 pm to ever43
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NLRB said it only applies to private universities.
do privates fall under a different set of NCAA rules?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:40 pm to lsupride87
Yeah, they get everything covered for the 4 or 5 years on campus, although I am surprised about the wisdom tooth surgery.
The difference is after the eligibility is up, and obviously some sports will leave athletes with far more pre-existing conditions than others.
The difference is after the eligibility is up, and obviously some sports will leave athletes with far more pre-existing conditions than others.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:40 pm to Bunk Moreland
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hat would be super chaotic is having some schools vote yes on unionization while others don't, so you have student athletes completing against paid athletes.
So are paid athletes getting salary + tuition? Would they be taxed on both?
This may be the way the north makes a football comeback since they will be the first schools unionized to attract athletes.
Seriously, the only schools that can afford to pay football players are the SEC, ND, USC, Oregon, UT, Umich, OSU, PSU and that's really it.
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