Started By
Message

re: Multiple Oregon Football players hospitalized following workouts

Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:57 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98133 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

They wouldnt survive at bama


The PED's at Bama would keep them going.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

To the on who said it's probably from being lazy, this is probably the cause.
quote:

People who have been working out at a high level don't get rhabdo.
We're not talking about average Joes (not from Dodgeball); it's college football players. They may be out of shape, but not some guys that have been sitting on the couch for a few years and decide to workout.
Posted by DONHOGG
NE Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
1981 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:03 pm to
Military does it but don't ask these poor athletes to work hard.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98133 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Military does it but don't ask these poor athletes to work hard.


Military works up to it, even if you're getting smoked. You don't go out there and do two hours of calisthenics from the get-go, even though it may seem like it.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34653 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:11 pm to
Yeah he needs to chill the frick out or he won't last long as a coach
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61113 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:17 pm to
Seems like this is the first time he's had an issue with his workouts. Oregon must've been coddling their players quite a bit. Guess that guy wouldn't have made it far anyways.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 10:18 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39972 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

I thought Iowa had this happen a few years ago and it never developed into a scandal or anything.



I remember something like that happening too.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7208 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

Scouring the scientific literature in mainstream medical journals, however, reveals a only a few peer-reviewed papers. The science confirms that exertional rhabdomyolysis, as this form is sometimes referred to, is uncommon and normally reserved for the elite military trainee, ultra-endurance monsters, and for victims of the occasional psychotic football coach.


From the previously linked article
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

Military does it but don't ask these poor athletes to work hard.
Seems like the military is building endurance moreso than pure strength.

Regardless, I don't expect people training for potentially life and death situations to go through a similar workout as anybody else:
Posted by Thurber
NWLA
Member since Aug 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:39 pm to
Willie going to work
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87373 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:42 pm to
There were reports about something similar happening at Houston when tom Herman took over
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39972 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:44 pm to
Gotta change the culture sometimes.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14721 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:46 pm to
Getting kids sent to the hospital isn't culture changing.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110670 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

Military does it but don't ask these poor athletes to work hard.
This college football stuff is life or death, guys!!!!
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:52 pm to
Waiting for that prevalence link
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:53 pm to
Oh that's just what I've heard from my family and friends who work in hospitals. It may not be exactly 95 outta 100 but you get the general idea.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51479 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:56 pm to
Just take a look at Helfrich, you know players were tuning that dude out. I wouldn't be surprised if several player's choose to transfer now that theres a no nonsense coach there.
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
Dallas, TX
Member since Apr 2013
2576 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

A power lifter could easily get rhabdo if he went from the couch to doing 1 hour of nonstop lifting. It's when your muscles aren't ready for the workload and break down and enter the bloodstream. People who have been working out at a high level don't get rhabdo.


I think the crux of you point is mostly correct, but I will say that your last sentence is not nearly that cut an dry. Many big-time athletes get rhabdo. It typically happens in cases where suddenly change the types off workouts they are doing and rapidly increase their intensity and duration of anaerobic workouts. Typically it happens in sports that are skill based that switch to an off-season conditioning program. Their bodies are not used to a really high heart rate sustained over a longer period of time.

A general rule that has become best practice of most strength and conditioning coaches is raising workout intensity/duration roughly 10-15% a week we an offload week every 4-6 weeks.

If Oregon was off for a month plus without a bowl game and then went into off season conditioning out of shape and with poor nutrition, it is definitely possible you could get some guys to get rhabdo. It is serious, but where I come from, if you let yourself get so out of shape in a month that you couldn't handle off season workouts (knowing full well that those are usually the hardest ones) then you probably were not disciplined enough to be on the team.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

but you get the general idea.


That 90% of stats are made up???
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:12 pm to
9 times outta 10 (95 outta 100) is a figure of speech. "Almost all the time." Not literally 9x of 10.
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 6Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram