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re: Michael Sam signs with the CFL

Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:13 am to
Posted by trom83
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2013
4724 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:13 am to
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How does Tim Tebow not have a roster spot?


Tebow just signed a 1 year contract with the Eagles
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:18 am to
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That might have been part of it. I do think he was given less of a chance compared to others in the NFL because some teams didn't want the extra media attention or potential problems with homophobic teammates.

I find it hard to believe that he didn't make it i the NFL as a defensive specialist or backup.



Shh don't say that around here. Any legitimate grievance is always an excuse or a fabrication around here
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:21 am to
With that said.

If you're too small to play 4-3 END and too slow to play 3-4 OLB then you better be a killer ST player or else there is not place for you in the league
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76529 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:28 am to
So you truly think that an NFL team that is willing to give rapists, murders, and wife beaters a roster spot that will surely damage their image, wouldn't give that spot to a homosexual in 2015?

Get the frick out.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:33 am to
6'2", 261 lbs, slow, weak (17 reps BP-not even a good number for a safety), very poor results in other measurables.

How hard is it to comprehend that the guy is perfect CFL material?
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22851 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:34 am to
His cone drill was off the charts though!
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:36 am to
Michael Sam: Studying the Game Tape

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So basically in his final five games plus 40 snaps against Oklahoma State—the best competition Sam faced all season—he had no splash plays. The right tackles he faced (as a left end he didn’t go against Texas A&M left tackle Jake Matthews, a projected top-10 pick) in that stretch were more of what he will see in the pros. The right tackles he beat up to gain his production likely wouldn’t be on NFL training-camp rosters. Four of his sacks came with lesser opponents desperate and behind by large margins in the fourth quarter, in obvious passing situations. In addition, Florida’s offensive line was one of the worst I’ve ever seen. Lastly: Sam’s sack against South Carolina in overtime was on an unblocked stunt.

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Of his first 10 sacks of the season, only once was he engaged with a blocker and defeated him (first sack against Vanderbilt). The rest were seven speed rushes around the end against inferior competition, and two when he wasn’t blocked.

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He’s very good at being assignment-sure and in the right spot immediately after the snap, indicating he takes coaching well, but after that the game does not appear to come naturally to him. It’s a constant theme on tape that he often falls for zone-read play-fakes and also struggles to diagnose screens.

Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30112 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:42 am to
In other words, no instinct, slow, and can't hang with the big boys.

If I remember correctly, early analysis of him said a lot of his sacks came when the qb was flushed to his side by his teammates.
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:54 am to
Had I been the GM of the 49ers I would signed Sam and quashed any locker room homophobia quickly. He might not have played and he might have just been a waste of a roster spot, but the money from Michael Sam mdse sales in the Bay Area gay community for just a few years would have made it worth it.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112338 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:02 pm to
I guess we now know why your GM career never took off
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112338 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Shh don't say that around here. Any legitimate grievance is always an excuse or a fabrication around here



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With that said. If you're too small to play 4-3 END and too slow to play 3-4 OLB then you better be a killer ST player or else there is not place for you in the league


So you agree that he doesn't have NFL talent...:yet you think he was treated unfairly because he was gay

So basically he should've been given a roster spot because he was gay?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158764 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:07 pm to
don't engage SS, its useless.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32530 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:11 pm to
I was being facetious.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51807 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:12 pm to
Too slow to be an edge rusher or LB, too small to be a DL. It's not complicated.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

I guess we now know why your GM career never took off




Cowboys signed him to the practice squad before waiving him. Jerry Jones would sign Bin Laden if he could make plays. Obviously couldn't.
Posted by Rio
Member since May 2015
286 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:21 pm to
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How does the SEC defensive player of the year from the best league in college football not even make a roster spot in the NFL? S

being good in college =/= being good enough in the NFL
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29049 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:39 pm to
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I think you're missing my point.



I think you missed my joke ... "GET COCK-Y" ... a.k.a. Michael Sam ?


Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29049 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:41 pm to
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How does the SEC defensive player of the year from the best league in college football not even make a roster spot in the NFL?



Even Heisman trophy winners bust in the NFL all the time.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10668 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:44 pm to
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Even Heisman trophy winners bust in the NFL all the time.


True, but even Pat Sullivan and Steve Spurrier made NFL teams. Sam didn't even stick around on the practice squad all season. Even Tebow has gotten multiple chances.

I just wonder if he wasn't gay would he be given more opportunity in the NFL.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:45 pm to
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I just wonder if he wasn't gay would he be given more opportunity in the NFL.


no
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