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re: List the college basketball Blue Blood Programs

Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:01 pm to
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UF is the Donovan era and that's it. Exactly like football before Spurrier. UF Bball might as well not existed 20 years ago.


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LSU Fan

Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139848 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:02 pm to
Guess they do not remember Sloan or Kruger. Before Sloan it was nothing though. 85 was first time I remember them in a post season tournament
This post was edited on 3/18/17 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:04 pm to
NCAA titles
UF 2
LSU 0

Final Fours
UF 5
LSU 4

NCAA tournament wins
UF 43
LSU 24
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:05 pm to
Eh I don't really count Sloan because he was dirty as shite.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15905 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:11 pm to
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I can't believe Arizona has only 1 more final 4 than LSU.

Actually both have 4.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15905 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:16 pm to
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9. Arizona

Everyone seems to be in agreement on Arizona. Consistently solid program, but I'm not seeing how they belong with the others.

I mean, Florida, Michigan State and Cincy have more titles and more Final Fours than them.
This post was edited on 3/18/17 at 3:18 pm
Posted by arkyhawk
SWMO
Member since Jan 2013
8116 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:18 pm to
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Posted by Waffle House
NYC
Member since Aug 2008
3945 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:24 pm to
You aren't refuting his argument with that. He argued UF was nothing without Donovan so let's see his stats broken down against the rest of UFs history.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12767 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:44 pm to
To me Arizona is a carbon copy of uconn, minus 3 titles.

Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22805 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:57 pm to
LSU is Teir I in a hypothetical All-Time team tournament.
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
11883 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 3:58 pm to
If we win another title, I think an argument could be made to put UofL ahead of IU

As it stands currently....

Louisville
42 NCAA Tournament Appearances
3 National Championships
10 Final Fours
76 Tournament wins

Indiana
39 NCAA Tournament Appearances
5 National Championships
8 Final Fours
66 Tournament wins



Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66439 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 4:07 pm to
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Tier 1 (in no order)

UNC
UCLA
Duke
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky


100%
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26808 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 4:21 pm to
I think you have to have a strong combination of historic and current success.

That's what keeps Florida off the list.

That's also what keeps old school champs like San Francisco off the list.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

You aren't refuting his argument with that. He argued UF was nothing without Donovan so let's see his stats broken down against the rest of UFs history


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Virginia Fan

Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45230 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 4:28 pm to
Since 2000, Florida has:

2 National Championships
4 Final Fours
7 Elite Eights
13 Tournament Appearances

Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9419 posts
Posted on 3/18/17 at 4:40 pm to
Looking at the resumes they look about even as is.
Posted by TheSwineAssault
The Delta
Member since Apr 2010
1623 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:38 pm to
ARKANSAS

*Top 10 in Final Four Appearances (6)

*Top 17 in ALL-TIME Win Percentage

*Top 15 in NCAA Bids (32)

*National Championship (34 Teams have done it ...ever)

* Runner Up

* Final Fours were from 4 different coaches.

* 2 Nasimath HOF coaches.

* 30 All Americans

*Some of the biggest moments in NCAA history. (U.S. Reed)(Scotty Thurman)


ARKANSAS, whether you like it or not, is most definitely TIER 2 in College Basketball History. Compare The Hog's bb resumes with Arizona, Syracuse, Georgetown, and others and you will understand.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 7:39 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35542 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:42 pm to
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*Top 10 in Final Four Appearances (6)


That's Top 10...

Jesus.

ETA:

Top 10 is misleading...

There's a huge disparity between Top 5 and Top 10.

1. North Carolina - 20
2. UCLA - 17
3. Kentucky - 17
4. Duke - 16
5. Kansas - 14
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132390 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:50 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 4:07 am
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8008 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:55 pm to
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If Indiana and Kansas are in, then Louisville should be Tier 1 as well. 33 years between their first and last title, as many titles as Kansas and a higher winning percentage than Indiana.


Louisville always gets the short shrift in these discussions. They're pretty clearly either #6 or #7 depending on how you look at it, and they're a lot closer to the IU/KU tier than they are the Michigan State/UConn/Cincinnati tier.

As many titles as Kansas, more Final Fours than IU. They're between 4th and 6th in a bunch of other major categories (all time tournament appearances, all time tournament wins, Sweet Sixteens, Elite Eights, Final Fours, etc.). Final Fours in five different decades under three different coaches. Top ten all time in both wins and winning percentage. They were the program of the decade in the 1980's despite the hoopla the Big East programs got.

They've never had the star power and pop that some of the other programs near that level have had, but the consistency and success since the 1950's or so is pretty remarkable.
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