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re: Let's talk about reviewing sliding plays into bases in MLB
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:21 am to Yak
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:21 am to Yak
I don’t really like technology in baseball a whole lot to be honest because it creates a bunch of unintended consequences. I’m ok with replay on foul balls, home runs, and catches. Don’t care for it on slides. Also don’t want robotic strike zones.
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:22 am to mylsuhat
quote:It's very strange as a Cubs fan to be in this predicament where we are now the hated, as opposed to the hater.
Super slow-mo to show that Jon F'n Lester picked off Zimmerman at 1st? Good
Super slow-mo to show that Wilson Concannon picked off Lobaton at 1st? Bad
I like it
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:23 am to rlebl39
quote:After last night I'm leaning more and more for it.
Also don’t want robotic strike zones.
I get it, the human element really makes the game. But why are pitchers getting punished for throwing great pitches that aren't called and hitter getting punished for pitches that aren't close but they're rung up?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:26 am to mylsuhat
One of my issue with a robotic strike zones is that it will unintentionally almost eliminate stolen bases. Part of what makes throwing out a runner difficult for catchers is trying to frame a strike and throw out a runner at the same time. With a robot calling balls and strikes, all a catcher has to do is worry about throwing out runners and catch the ball. Eliminates a pretty big part of the game.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:27 am to rlebl39
Totally agree with this and I was thinking that last night 
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:33 am to barry
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vertical space above the base being safe if you've already touched the base and maintain part of your body over the base.
Just make slides non reviewable before making this rule.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:34 am to baldona
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You are either on the base or off
Then why not make runners to first base stay on the bag? It's not like baseball doesn't already have a form of the rule that is mentioned in the OP.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:36 am to barry
My thought is that it’s criminal that they have HD replay in baseball, but still some dude behind the plate subjectively calling balls and strikes.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:38 am to Mo Jeaux
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Then why not make runners to first base stay on the bag? It's not like baseball doesn't already have a form of the rule that is mentioned in the OP.
oh
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:39 am to CypressTrout10
quote:Yes. Which is why since last night I have been calling Lobaton an uncoordinated pussy for going back to the bag feet first
You realize its almost impossible to keep foot on bag without it coming up when coming in with that much force?
Everyone is taught to dive back to the bag head first
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:52 am to barry
I like the literal interpretation of the rule. If you're off the bag, you're out. Players need to adjust like they have with other rules such as the double play rule when they aren't letting them get away with just being in the area of the bag on defense
That being said the replay last night looked like they guessed that rizzo prob held the tag on them. They should not have reversed that
That being said the replay last night looked like they guessed that rizzo prob held the tag on them. They should not have reversed that
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:55 am to rlebl39
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I’m ok with replay on foul balls, home runs, and catches. Don’t care for it on slides.
When a game can be decided on a safe/out call at home plate, you have to be able to review slides.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:01 am to TotesMcGotes
quote:I mean, it's similar in football. A referee arbitrarily places the football where he thinks the runner's knee went down (margin of error at least a foot). Then they bring out an exact measuring tool to decide if it's a 1st down or not
My thought is that it’s criminal that they have HD replay in baseball, but still some dude behind the plate subjectively calling balls and strikes.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:04 am to mylsuhat
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So new you can straddle the bag and not stand on it? Wildly slide over it as long as you can reach the air above the bag? Hell, why slide. Run right through it and then slide to stop.
I don't think that's at all what the guy is going for.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:05 am to barry
I didn't see the game, but this was a huge issue last year as it seemed like there were 2 or 3 pretty awful situations where a guy got in in time. But, because he popped up a little after getting in and the camera now sees imperfections in things you would never have considered before, the guy is out. Most of the MSB thought there needed to be a change.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:06 am to LSUBoo
I agree, but when you bring in the human element like that it ends up evolving wildly. Hell, I can't define what is considered a catch anymore in football. A catch. Something we learn when we can start to talk.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:06 am to barry
i will go to my grave saying these are a detriment to the game
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:08 am to mylsuhat
Exactly. On football catches as well as plays where you're trying to determine if a fumble is in progress, well, if you slow down the film enough -- the ball is ALWAYS spinning a little.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:09 am to WestCoastAg
Why? Do you not like that it slows the game down? Or are you like Tom Glavine and you would prefer arbitrary advantage over the precision of a by the book call?
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:13 am to therick711
i think its ridiculous that we can penalize a player for being off the bag for less than half a second all because we now have these super slow mo hi def cameras that we have never had until the last 5 years. its taking a rule by the absolute book and it doesnt allow for context. lobaton is safe if this happens in any other time of the 120+ years of baseball history prior to 2010.
its very much like challenging a catch or a fumble in football. when we can slow the game down as much as we can, and add in the hi def cameras, you are always going to see a little wabble of the ball
its very much like challenging a catch or a fumble in football. when we can slow the game down as much as we can, and add in the hi def cameras, you are always going to see a little wabble of the ball
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 10:14 am
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