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re: JT Barrett Arrested for OVI

Posted on 10/31/15 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/31/15 at 4:58 pm to
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This is worse


That depends who you ask I guess.

Four games, at a minimum, would probably be the right thing to do. It won't happen, because unfortunately, you have people like the ones in here that pretend this isn't that bad because he was "barely" over the legal limit. I mean, they are wrong, but let's not let that get in the way of anything.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/31/15 at 5:27 pm to


Second offense, yes. For this, no.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72675 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 5:38 pm to
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Second offense, yes. For this, no.


Second offense? You're kidding, right?
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 5:40 pm to
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Second offense? You're kidding, right?


Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 5:45 pm to
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I mean, they are wrong, but let's not let that get in the way of anything
So what if a player would have blown a .07 and had not received a ticket. How would you have felt about that? Would you be calling for a fairly significant suspension?
This post was edited on 10/31/15 at 5:48 pm
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25239 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 5:51 pm to
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So what if a player would have blown a .07 and had not received a ticket. How would you have felt about that

Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 5:51 pm to
Who fricking knows with this guy. He is all over the map with his arguments.

I mean really we should probably put JT in prison for a month or two. He ALMOST KILLED PEOPLE.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72675 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 5:52 pm to
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So what if a player would have blown a .07 and had not received a ticket. How would you have felt about that? Would you be calling for a fairly significant suspension?


The legal limit for JT Barrett was .02. Everyone knows that, right? So yes, if he blew a .07, nothing changes.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 5:55 pm to
I heard JT was doing 60 in a 55mph construction zone.

HE ALMOST KILLED PEOPLE.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:20 pm to
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The legal limit for JT Barrett was .02. Everyone knows that, right? So yes, if he blew a .07, nothing changes.
I said a "player" (Barrett turns 21 in two months anyways) because you argued that he could have hit a crowd a people or family, which relates to the level of impairment.

So if a player blew a .07 would you be calling for a multiple game suspension?
This post was edited on 10/31/15 at 6:25 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72675 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 6:32 pm to
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I said a "player" (Barrett turns 21 in two months anyways) because you argued that he could have hit a crowd a people or family, which relates to the level of impairment.


Someone that "turns 21 in two months anyways" is still 20, making it .02. It doesn't really matter, because he was still over the legal limit for someone of age.

Again, that wasn't an argument. That's something everyone of measurable intelligence knows.

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So if a player blew a .07 would you be calling for a multiple game suspension?


Which player?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35602 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 7:05 pm to
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So what if a player would have blown a .07 and had not received a ticket. How would you have felt about that? Would you be calling for a fairly significant suspension?


JT is underage. He gets an OVI if there is any alcohol in his system.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32899 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 7:08 pm to
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quote: Like he did with Ryan Perilloux

After his third or fourth off the field incident. Congrats.


Well this is at least no 2 for Barrett. I'm sure he just made a mistake and there aren't any other incidents that weren't made public. After all, CUM is the best at spotting character flaws in his players.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32899 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 7:11 pm to
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They think checkpoints are the bane of society.


Well, the chkpoints arent always just for arresting drunks. STEP money, etc.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 7:12 pm to
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Someone that "turns 21 in two months anyways" is still 20, making it .02. It doesn't really matter, because he was still over the legal limit for someone of age.

Again, that wasn't an argument. That's something everyone of measurable intelligence knows
You seem to see the world in black and white; there is no nuance, unless that nuance has been established.

You're advocating for at least a 4 game suspension because he could have "hit a family or a crowd" presumably because he blew--albeit an arbitrarily defined--level. But knowing there is now practical difference between .08 and .07, I would assume you would be advocating for at least a 2 or 3 game suspension if someone drive at a .07 level; otherwise, your "could have hit a family" is a BS response defined by arbitrariness, not reality.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 7:18 pm to
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alcohol in his system.
I get that; this is in reference to his posts like m "could have hit a family" which must refer to the level of impairment (i.e., .08).
This post was edited on 10/31/15 at 7:19 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72675 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 7:31 pm to
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You seem to see the world in black and white; there is no nuance, unless that nuance has been established.


No, I can assure you that I don't, but I do see the world in reality. I even said that him not running from the checkpoint changes things a little.

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You're advocating for at least a 4 game suspension because he could have "hit a family or a crowd" presumably because he blew--albeit an arbitrarily defined--level. But knowing there is now practical difference between .08 and .07, I would assume you would be advocating for at least a 2 or 3 game suspension if someone drive at a .07 level; otherwise, your "could have hit a family" is a BS response defined by arbitrariness, not reality.


No, not really. First, I'm not advocating for anything. This isn't up to me, or you, or anyone else here that I'm aware of. I would give him a 4 game suspension because he was drinking underage, then got caught driving at over four times his legal limit, then allegedly tried to run from the police (later shown to be untrue). "Hitting a family or crowd" was in response to some idiot downplaying this as not that big of a deal. It is a big deal, and should be handled as such.

JT Barret is over the legal limit at .02, not .08, so get that number out of your head.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 7:50 pm to
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JT Barret is over the legal limit at .02, not .08, so get that number out of your head.
But the level of impairment associated with his BAC doesn't differ; this is my point. When you make an argument relating the impact of one's impairment then some arbitrary criterion are essentially irrelevant. So a person barely over the limit is not functionally different the person barely under, yet people will often chastise the former but not say a thing about the latter. I'm trying to see if you fall into that poor logic.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72675 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 7:59 pm to
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But the level of impairment associated with his BAC doesn't differ; this is my point. When you make an argument relating the impact of one's impairment then some arbitrary criterion are essentially irrelevant.


You have no idea how he was affected by a .099 BAC. He was actually close to five times his legal limit, so I misspoke when I said four times.

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So a person barely over the limit is not functionally different the person barely under, yet people will often chastise the former but not say a thing about the latter. I'm trying to see if you fall into that poor logic.


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"Hitting a family or crowd" was in response to some idiot downplaying this as not that big of a deal. It is a big deal, and should be handled as such.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35602 posts
Posted on 10/31/15 at 8:00 pm to
It's fairly obvious that you either don't have kids or have young children. You'll mature in your thinking.
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