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re: I told you that everybody does it. (DeflateGate)
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:15 am to lsupride87
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:15 am to lsupride87
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I could go on tv today and said I have driven drunk. I wont get investigated for it. That was the poin
And it is a really shitty point comparing the government to a group of private organizations that are supposed to be treated fairly.
How do you think the bounty investigation started? Someone made a statement to the NFL and they investigated it.
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If you cant understand the inference I was making let me know so I do not have to bother reading your post in her
It isn't some complex thought, just a dumb one. I fully understand what you're saying, it is just illogical.
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:16 am to shel311
quote:Because you are comparing it to 5 years in prison man
Yes, in this football world we live in, a quarter of a season and draft picks is a huge, HUGE deal.
Like HUGE, not sure why you're discounting that.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:16 am to lsupride87
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Them denying wrongdoing, and possibly being shown to be repeat offenders for the crime maybe. I am sure we will find out
That's the key word here. The Wells Report merely concluded it was possible that Brady knew. There was nothing definitive. Yet you support a punishment of this magnitude simply because Goodell had a feeling Brady knew something?
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:16 am to TigerBait1127
quote:Did the NFL investigate the players from other teams that admitted to bounties? No.
And it is a really shitty point comparing the government to a group of private organizations that are supposed to be treated fairly.
How do you think the bounty investigation started? Someone made a statement to the NFL and they investigated it.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:17 am to lsupride87
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Missing 4 games for getting caught and lying about cheating, is the same as 5 years in jail for illegal parking. I am sorry, I cant make that comparison
ETA: Dude shel you my boy, but really?
You really can't understand what he's saying here? Please let me know so I can quit reading your posts blah blah blah
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:17 am to lsupride87
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Did the NFL investigate the players from other teams that admitted to bounties? No.
That's the point, jesus
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:17 am to lsupride87
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Them denying wrongdoing
Why should the penalty for "lack of cooperation" exceed the penalty for what they are being investigated?
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possibly being shown to be repeat offenders for the crime maybe
The punishment has been handed-down...did the Wells Report demonstrate they are repeat offenders?
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:17 am to lsupride87
quote:Well the last 3 major scandals were all instances of the league overstepping their boundaries...it's kinda what they do.
Them denying wrongdoing, and possibly being shown to be repeat offenders for the crime maybe. I am sure we will find out
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:17 am to RollTide1987
quote:They proved "more likely than not" Which is the burden of proof agreed upon by the players and league officials
That's the key word here. The Wells Report merely concluded it was possible that Brady knew. There was nothing definitive. Yet you support a punishment of this magnitude simply because Goodell had a feeling Brady knew something?
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:18 am to lsupride87
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They proved "more likely than not" Which is the burden of proof agreed upon by the players and league officials
And they also agreed that the penalty for ball tampering is $25,000
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:18 am to shel311
quote:And if the independent appeals committee lowers their suspension based on his interpretation of the rules, I will be perfectly fine with that
Well the last 3 major scandals were all instances of the league overstepping their boundaries...it's kinda what they do.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 9:19 am
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:18 am to lsupride87
quote:All you're doing now is dodging my main point, fwiw.
Because you are comparing it to 5 years in prison man
Make it jaywalking and 2 months in jail, that make you feel better? If so, go with that.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:19 am to TigerBait1127
quote:Glad I'm not going crazy, he's too focused on the details and not the overriding point.
You really can't understand what he's saying here?
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:19 am to TigerBait1127
quote:And so lets see if the appeals committee thinks that is the only infraction Brady and the Patriots are guilty of. If they do, they will take away all penalties except $25k and yall can rest easy and your crusade will be over
And they also agreed that the penalty for ball tampering is $25,000
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:20 am to shel311
quote:I understand the point you are trying to make. I disagree with it. Sorry
Glad I'm not going crazy, he's too focused on the details and not the overriding point.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:21 am to lsupride87
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possibly being shown to be repeat offenders
I'm curious as to how this work. What defines the period of "repeat offender"?
Is it as long as Kraft is owner? Forever? Until Brady and or Belicheck retire? How deep does that extend
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:22 am to lsupride87
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They proved "more likely than not" Which is the burden of proof agreed upon by the players and league officials
As is the punishment. A $25,000 fine. How is this any different from the Panthers heating balls last year or the Chargers putting stick 'em on their towels back in 2012 so their receivers could better catch balls? In both instances the players involved got a slap on the wrist. And that was with undeniable proof.
Also...the Colts informed the NFL *before* the game that the Patriots were deflating balls. If the NFL was aware of a problem before the game, why didn't they warn the Patriots this was going on? Why did they let them play with tampered balls for an entire half?
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:23 am to wildtigercat93
quote:I would think the same ownership and management being caught in an 8 year period would be considered a repeat offender by most people
I'm curious as to how this work. What defines the period of "repeat offender"?
Is it as long as Kraft is owner? Forever? Until Brady and or Belicheck retire? How deep does that extend
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:24 am to RollTide1987
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Also...the Colts informed the NFL *before* the game that the Patriots were deflating balls.
And they held onto that information for an entire season before making it an ordeal.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:24 am to lsupride87
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And so lets see if the appeals committee thinks that is the only infraction Brady and the Patriots are guilty of. If they do, they will take away all penalties except $25k and yall can rest easy and your crusade will be over
It shouldn't have to come down to that for a fair punishment every single time
It is an abuse of power for something the NFL doesn't care that much about.
If they did, they would have the proper controls in place to prevent it from happening. The absence of control shows that the NFL doesn't consider the action "detrimental to the game". If it is, then the failure at the top of the NFL needs to be addressed.
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