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re: I think Eli Manning is underrated

Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:04 pm to
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That said, Eli is not a Top 30 QB of all time. Maybe not even Top 40.
not even close to top 40
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:43 pm to
Namath got overrated big time after that Super Bowl III victory, refresh my memory did he ever have a season with more TDs than INTs in his career?
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:45 pm to
Please just stfu
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32392 posts
Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:47 pm to
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Romo


Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:48 pm to
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I think Eli Manning is underrated

Do ya now?
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:38 pm to
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So I started looking at some stats.

Eli Manning is currently 7th in most touchdowns thrown in NFL history.

He is currently 8th in most passing yards thrown in NFL history.

He is tied for 7th for most 4th quarter comebacks of all time.



he's been real durable.

other than his rookie year, he's hasn't missed a game. I know it isn't always a gem of a game he plays but he's a gamer.. for better or worse.

LINK

This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 11:42 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:49 pm to
And sometimes he'll win the Giants Super Bowls, what's really limited this Giants team regarding overall team success over the years has been the defense's consistently poor performances with exception of 2013 and last season, not OBJ. Eli and the defense carried the 2016 Giants to the NFL playoffs despite possessing arguably the worst rushing attack in the NFL. It was pathetic at times how that rushing attack performed during the course of the season.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41171 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:08 am to
Eli is going to finish his career with at least the following-

2 Super Bowl MVPs
#6 all-time in career touchdown passes
#6 all-time in career passing yards
#6 all-time in career passes completed

He is going to Canton.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:15 am to
Romo was a significantly better qb than Eli. That isn't lol. Of the last generation of qb's Romo was right outside that elite top 4 grouping and some years he was right there with them. Romo was legitimately the most underrated qb in the league and got an unfair amount of hate.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:38 am to
in the 2011 NFCCG, the 49ers knocked him around like a rag doll.

he had some insane amount pass attempts. You weren't gonna run a lot on that 49ers D as it was.

but he didn't commit any turnovers that game.

he definitely isn't the most exciting QB to watch but he's pretty tough. I can look past stats sometimes and appreciate a QB who stands in the pocket and takes most of the hits.

course, in his case he has no choice cause he doesn't have that unique ability to avoid pressure (save for that pass to Tyree in the SB).
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30091 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:50 am to
The bigger the stage, the more clutch he becomes. The issue is that he's a player who can't make those around him better, you need to invest into players that makes him better. When elite QBs lost their #1 option they didn't completely drop off and become the worst qb in the league.

Literally one draft pick in 2014 turned him from one foot out the door to this kind of discussion. That's why him making the hof is going to be hilarious. You can appreciate how a player like him and Flacco caught fire, but their whole career is completely meh
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25789 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:57 am to
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Eli is also very inconsistent. He can look anywhere from Tom Brady to Jay Cutler


well said. This is his problem.
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 6:48 am to
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Ok, here me out.


Stopped reading after this
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 6:49 am to
Eli has one great season(2011) in which hewas legit top 7. Another 4 average/above average(12-16th best Qb in the NFL). The other TWO THIRDS of his career have been below average to absolutely terrible.

He's a more durable and less consistent Carson Palmer(who is very inconsistent himself)
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 6:52 am
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:20 am to
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He's a more durable and less consistent Carson Palmer(who is very inconsistent himself)


Eli is WAY more durable than Palmer and MUCH more consistent.

Terrible comparison.

Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30091 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:21 pm to
Eli Manning has the same career completion % as Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:38 pm to
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Rivers is clearly better than Eli, not even up for debate.





You're being downvoted, though this is fact


Rivers career:

Passer rating: 94.7
TD: 314
INT: 156
Comp %: 64.4
W/L: 97-79 (176 games)


Eli:


Passer rating: 83.7
TD: 320
INT: 215
Comp %: 59.7
W/L: 108-91 (199 games)



Rivers takes a gigantic shite on eli when it comes to efficiency. He's more accurate. Eli has played in 23 more games than Rivers yet has only 6 more TDs.


Eli has had more success in the playoffs, and has 2 rings. But he's not a better QB.

Big Ben > Rivers > Eli
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26577 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:45 pm to
Big Ben is much better than Rivers and Eli imo

Also, one side note I just wanted to throw in here. The other day I saw videos of Bert Jones and Terry Bradshaw throwing, and good Lord, those arms would have done just fine even today. I was always one of those who thought modern athletes were always better than previous generations, and as a whole they are, but this was an exception.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110709 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:59 am to
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You're being downvoted, though this is fact

Yep.

Downvotes don't matter, almost proves my point that the MSB loves to "count the rings"

But yea, it's really not even a debate, Rivers is clearly better than Eli.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127390 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:11 am to
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But yea, it's really not even a debate, Rivers is clearly better than Eli.



It's a shame the franchise Rivers plays for wasn't taking winning seriously.
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