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re: "He is moving like a TREMENDOUS MACHINE!"
Posted on 5/18/14 at 6:48 pm to dr smartass phd
Posted on 5/18/14 at 6:48 pm to dr smartass phd
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He knew it too
He did. He loved the cameras and the attention. A true super horse if there ever was one.
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Posted on 5/18/14 at 7:14 pm to beatbammer
Posted on 5/18/14 at 7:20 pm to Will Munny
quote:
Why would they not weigh it?
Most famous horse ever, but we'll just give it the old eyeball test....heart is...22 pounds?
This has always baffled me.
Posted on 5/18/14 at 7:21 pm to weagle99
Secretariat is greatest "athlete horse" - like Bo Jackson akin to football - but Citation is the greatest all-around horse - akin to Rice or Walter Payton.
I love Secretariat as much as anyone but it's sort of sad that he overwhelmingly overshadows other great horses who had far better careers and were worked harder on the track.
Citation was handicapped so much in his races...weighing him down with extra weight and he still produced. But he's been forgotten because it was too long ago.
I love Secretariat as much as anyone but it's sort of sad that he overwhelmingly overshadows other great horses who had far better careers and were worked harder on the track.
Citation was handicapped so much in his races...weighing him down with extra weight and he still produced. But he's been forgotten because it was too long ago.
Posted on 5/18/14 at 7:29 pm to Zamoro10
Man O'War versus Secretariat: best times at standard racing distances, and calculated margin of victory
6 furlongs: Man'O War 1:11 1/5, Secretariat 1:09 4/5, Secretariat by 7 lengths
1 mile: Man'O War 1:35 4/5, Secretariat 1:33 2/5, Secretariat by 10 lengths
1 1/16: Man'O War 1:44 4/5, Secretariat 1:42 4/5, Secretariat by 10 lengths
1 1/8: Man'O War 1:49 1/5, Secretariat 1:45 2/5, Secretariat by 19 lengths
1 3/16: Man'O War 1:56 3/5, Secretariat 1:53 2/5, Secretariat by 16 lengths
1 1/4: Man'O War 2:01 4/5, Secretariat 1:59 flat, Secretariat by 14 lengths
1 3/8: Man'O War 2:14 1/5, Secretariat 2:12 1/5, Secretariat by 10 lengths
1 1/2: Man'O War 2:28 4/5, Secretariat 2:24 flat, Secretariat by 24 lengths
1 5/8: Man'O War 2:40 4/5, Secretariat 2:37 4/5, Secretariat by 15 lengths
6 furlongs: Man'O War 1:11 1/5, Secretariat 1:09 4/5, Secretariat by 7 lengths
1 mile: Man'O War 1:35 4/5, Secretariat 1:33 2/5, Secretariat by 10 lengths
1 1/16: Man'O War 1:44 4/5, Secretariat 1:42 4/5, Secretariat by 10 lengths
1 1/8: Man'O War 1:49 1/5, Secretariat 1:45 2/5, Secretariat by 19 lengths
1 3/16: Man'O War 1:56 3/5, Secretariat 1:53 2/5, Secretariat by 16 lengths
1 1/4: Man'O War 2:01 4/5, Secretariat 1:59 flat, Secretariat by 14 lengths
1 3/8: Man'O War 2:14 1/5, Secretariat 2:12 1/5, Secretariat by 10 lengths
1 1/2: Man'O War 2:28 4/5, Secretariat 2:24 flat, Secretariat by 24 lengths
1 5/8: Man'O War 2:40 4/5, Secretariat 2:37 4/5, Secretariat by 15 lengths
This post was edited on 5/18/14 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 5/18/14 at 11:35 pm to Bayou Tiger
The reasons Sham was drilled were a)the pace fried him; it didn't fry Secretariat. The rail excuse is ridiculous. b)Shame had run 2 extremely trying races in a row against Secretariat and didn't have much left for the Belmont.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:15 am to beatbammer
Were horse steroids prevalent and not tested for doing that time period, because they say the same things about Secretariat that they said about Lance Armstrong.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:40 am to tigerpimpbot
Drugs were prevalent among all horses...for a long time...forever.
So who gives a shite?
Humans, horses...everyone has been looking for an advantage since forever...and everyone at the elite level is in on it. So weightlifting, CFB, NFL, Cycling, etc...the playing field is level. This isn't the 1940's - PED's in all forms aren't a secret. Most everyone competing at a high level - has some juice going on.
Secretariat's secret was his huge heart and strange mind - horse ran a race like human on his own w/o the jockey. Horse was more than a horse.
William Nack once said...
"A plane flew over and I was looking at Secretariat and he looked up and watched and followed a plane fly over him like a human...I've never seen a horse do that."
So who gives a shite?
Humans, horses...everyone has been looking for an advantage since forever...and everyone at the elite level is in on it. So weightlifting, CFB, NFL, Cycling, etc...the playing field is level. This isn't the 1940's - PED's in all forms aren't a secret. Most everyone competing at a high level - has some juice going on.
Secretariat's secret was his huge heart and strange mind - horse ran a race like human on his own w/o the jockey. Horse was more than a horse.
William Nack once said...
"A plane flew over and I was looking at Secretariat and he looked up and watched and followed a plane fly over him like a human...I've never seen a horse do that."
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 12:44 am
Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:52 am to Zamoro10
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So who gives a shite?
I was just curious to know the extent. I'm not passing judgment on it.
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 12:53 am
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