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re: Does UNC deserve a playoff spot if they beat Clemson?
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:31 am to SabiDojo
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:31 am to SabiDojo
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Honestly, UNC makes it tough for me to leave them out because they just look really good right now. The problem is I KNOW Ohio State can win it all. They have the talent and, gun to my head, if you put them in the playoffs I think they will win it.
That's why I have trouble leaving Ohio State out of it.
I agree. The playoff is supposed to determine the four best teams, not the four most deserving. I don't think UNC is even close to being one of the four best teams. They've had a great season and they are playing great football against their schedule, but I don't think they could beat anyone in the top six, except maybe Iowa. Even that isn't something I'd bet on. If they do somehow make it in, they are going to get blown out in the first round and it will be a wasted spot that should have gone to a better football team.
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:34 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:If Bama loses by 1 (somehow), do you think they should still be in the playoffs?
The playoff is supposed to determine the four best teams, not the four most deserving.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:35 am to SabiDojo
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I may be wrong, but they are pretty down the list on the Sagarin/FPI/SOS rankings.
Yeah, but add in a win over Michigan State... might be a different story.
Winner of that game is going to get in, almost certainly.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:35 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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The playoff is supposed to determine the four best teams, not the four most deserving.
Yep. We can thank Alabama for that language.
In my opinion, it just comes down to how the UNC game goes. If Clemson comes out sleepwalking again and UNC squeaks by, I don't know if I want UNC in.
If Clemson shows up to play and UNC beats them, then frick it. Let the Tarheels in.
Honestly, Iowa would have to completely blow the doors off of Michigan State for me to put them in over Ohio State.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:36 am to castorinho
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If Bama loses by 1 (somehow), do you think they should still be in the playoffs?
No. Their wins are getting worse by the fricking second. Their best win right now is over Mississippi State or LSU. Yikes.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:40 am to SabiDojo
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Iowa would have to completely blow the doors off of Michigan State for me to put them in over Ohio State.
That makes no sense at all.
Iowa would be 13-0, conference champion, and proved itself again by beating the only team to beat tOSU.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 10:41 am
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:43 am to sms151t
I know. I've watched Iowa this season. They look well coached. They got some good players. I just don't see them as a playoff team. I know it's not fair. But, hey, at least I'm not the one making the decision.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:46 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I agree. The playoff is supposed to determine the four best teams, not the four most deserving.
Have they said that before?
If so, then the playoffs should be
Ohio State
Michigan
USC
Notre Dame
no one can determine who the four best teams are on paper.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:48 am to TeddyPadillac
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Have they said that before?
I thought that was the language or consideration certain schools fought to keep in. *cough cough*
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:54 am to TeddyPadillac
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Have they said that before?
Yes.
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no one can determine who the four best teams are on paper.
I don't disagree, but I don't think there's any argument for some teams.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:09 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I don't think UNC is even close to being one of the four best teams. They've had a great season and they are playing great football against their schedule
I agree. And I'm a UNC fan.
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but I don't think they could beat anyone in the top six, except maybe Iowa. Even that isn't something I'd bet on. If they do somehow make it in, they are going to get blown out in the first round and it will be a wasted spot that should have gone to a better football team.
If they make it in, it will be because they beat the #1 team in the country. You think that if they beat #1 Clemson they don't stand a chance against any of the other teams?
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:09 am to SabiDojo
Peoples hate for Alabama is awesome.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:11 am to Patton
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:12 am to Warheel
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If they make it in, it will be because they beat the #1 team in the country. You think that if they beat #1 Clemson they don't stand a chance against any of the other teams?
That's why I said it depends on how the game goes. Clemson has looked HORRIBLE defensively on the back end of the season. I would not be the least bit surprised if UNC lights them up.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 11:14 am
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:13 am to Warheel
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I agree. And I'm a UNC fan.
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If they make it in, it will be because they beat the #1 team in the country. You think that if they beat #1 Clemson they don't stand a chance against any of the other teams?
I don't think so, because I don't think Clemson is the best team in the country. I could always be proven wrong, but I see something similar to Florida State's loss last year. It might even be worse if they have to play Oklahoma. I don't think either ACC team will win in the playoff, but like I said, I could be wrong.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:15 am to castorinho
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If Bama loses by 1 (somehow), do you think they should still be in the playoffs?
No. Florida is terrible. A loss to Florida automatically puts them out.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:16 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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No. Florida is terrible. A loss to Florida automatically puts them out.
Agreed.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:22 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Who is the best team in the country in your opinion?
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:26 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Well yeah exactly. they'd be out, because they wouldn't be deserving...Not because all of the sudden they're no longer one of the four best teams.
No. Florida is terrible. A loss to Florida automatically puts them out.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:28 am to Patton
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Who is the best team in the country in your opinion?
In my opinion, 3-way tie with Ohio State, OU, and Sparty.
Edge to Oklahoma at this point, but I really do think that if you put Ohio State in the playoffs they will win it.
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