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Posted on 1/6/15 at 11:45 am to Godfather1
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Not if he went to an upper tier FCS school. He'd play immediately.
you really think Harris would transfer to a FCS school?
Posted on 1/6/15 at 11:48 am to Salmon
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you really think Harris would transfer to a FCS school?
Depends on how badly he wants to play right away.
Don't act like its unprecedented. SLU just graduated a QB with a similar skill set who was a transfer from Oregon.
I don't WANT any of this to happen, understand. I'm just pointing out the potential drawbacks.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 11:48 am to Bayoufightingtiger
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Does anyone know of any QB that has transferred and had real success in his only year he had at his new school?
Sorry, I should have quoted you before screaming Mett's name! But that dude had so much success with LSU, he ended up being drafted in the NFL and even started a bunch of games before getting hurt. Had he not torn his ACL, he would have been drafted much higher too.
Here is the List to /thread and your point...
TROY AIKMAN - Oklahoma to UCLA (Broke ankle)
Nick Foles - Michigan St to Arizona
Brock Berlin - Florida to Miami
Ryan Mallett - Michigan to Arkansas
Jeremiah Masoli - Oregon to Ole Miss
Russell Wilson - NC St. to Wisconsin
Gunner Kiel - LSU to Notre Dame to Cincy
Jeff Hostetler - Penn St to West Virginia
Joe Flacco - Pittsburgh to Delaware
Colt Brennan - Colorado to Hawaii
Jeff George - Purdue to Miami to Illinois
Tom Savage - Rutgers to Pittsburgh
Cam Newton - Florida to JUCO to Auburn
Zach Mettenberger - Georgia to JUCO to LSU
Nick Marshall - JUCO to Auburn
Posted on 1/6/15 at 11:49 am to tadelatt
I have more names if you need it OP
Posted on 1/6/15 at 11:50 am to Salmon
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true
I don't think he would RS though
If he would stay humble and realize the potential of what he could do at LSU with another year of getting reps in practice and learning the plays he could red shirt if someone that was known to only have one year of eligibility came in to start for a year.
Would like to hope that he would be willing to do that anyway.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 11:50 am to lsuhunt555
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OBrien and crew wanted to move to a pro style system which caused Wilson to leave NC St.
That's wrong.
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B5Q: Describe the events that led to Wilson's departure from North Carolina State. He says he wanted to stay there, so what happened? Was it a foregone conclusion that you were going to lose him after the 2010 season?
BTP: It wasn't a foregone conclusion that we were going to lose him, because Wilson has always maintained that he wants to play both sports. We knew he was going to join the Rockies for spring training and that he planned on playing baseball through the summer, as he did last year. The difference this time around, I think, has a lot to do with his replacement, Mike Glennon. Glennon probably would have transferred had Wilson returned, and so Wilson's indecision put Tom O'Brien in a difficult position. It wasn't just that O'Brien had an issue with Wilson's lack of full-time commitment to football, but that he also had to worry about potentially losing Mike Glennon.
Leading up to spring practice, O'Brien said that Glennon was his quarterback going forward. We have a lot of new faces at first string wide receiver, and some adjustments to the offense were necessary because Glennon is a completely different kind of QB, so I think O'Brien felt that it was important to make a decision based on those factors. He wanted his quarterback there in the spring to get as much work in with the receivers as possible.
O'Brien told Wilson that he could come back, but he'd be the backup quarterback if he did. Wilson wanted an equal opportunity to compete for the starting job if he came back, decided he wasn't going to get it, and requested his release.
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Posted on 1/6/15 at 11:55 am to Bayoufightingtiger
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You really think Miller will come here to hand the ball off and only throw it 15 times a game?
Miller has averaged right about 19 pass attempts per game at OSU.
Miller excels in the run game. Imagine him and Fournette in the backfield together.
Last season Miller played with Carlos Hyde who went for 1521 yards at 7.3 per carry and they combine for 27 rushing TDs. LSU had 25 rushing TDs total this season.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:08 pm to Godfather1
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Because all indications are, he's not overly enamored with the situation as is.
I don't have any insider info on Harris' state of mind so I'll have to take your word on it.
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I'm interested in why you would think that If somebody comes in and is handed the starting job after Harris has been told he'd have a chance to compete, he WOULDN'T leave?
Well that's the thing, I don't think anyone is going to hand Miller anything. No one handed Mett the job in 2011. He will have to compete next spring, same as Harris, same as Jennings.
Even if he doesn't get the start, he will still be here after Jennings and Miller or whoever else is gone, so riding the bench one more year isn't the end of the world and like I said, if he transfers he's not playing next year anyway.
It doesn't seem like a terrible situation to me, particularly for someone so talented, but if he finds it untenable and transfers, I don't think anyone should be going out of their way to stop him.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:13 pm to Godfather1
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Don't act like its unprecedented. SLU just graduated a QB with a similar skill set who was a transfer from Oregon.
Yeah but that guy was going to sit behind Mariota forever. Harris has a legit chance to win the job this year and next, and it's pretty much his to lose as a senior. None of that changes if Miller or any other guy transfers here.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:34 pm to Bayoufightingtiger
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Yea Miller would be a great pickup here at LSU. Nothing is guaranteed in our current system. I am being realistic and really don't see him coming here anyways.
I think he could come here.
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So lets say Miller comes here and plays all year long then on to next year we are back at square one.
Harris and Jennings would be a year better, we wouldn't be back at square one. Our big problem has been that (with the exception of mett) We've forced an inexperienced QB to start pretty much the second he walks on campus. I think Jennings and Harris would have been good QBs if we didn't force them to start practically from day 1. Now I think there are better QBs out there but we haven't brought in enough QBs that we can develop one while an older one gets better. If Miller comes in that gives Harris and Jennings an entire season of practices to get better. This would be a huge boost for LSU.
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He's very good so why doesn't he stay at OSU and get his job back?
Because there are two QBs who played spectacular out of the gate even though they were back ups. He probably has a feeling that he wouldn't win the job over both of them, so he wants to go to a place where he feels confident he can start from the first game on.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:35 pm to ZereauxSum
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if he transfers he's not playing next year anyway.
once you graduate you don't have to sit out a year before you play again. Miller could start in 2015.
edit: I think you were talking about Harris my bad.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:44 pm to catholictigerfan
Yeah I probably should have worded that run-on a little better 
Posted on 1/6/15 at 12:50 pm to tadelatt
Many of those players (i.e. Mallett, Foles, Flacco, Brennan, Marshall, Aikman, Kiel, etc.) played multiple years at their new school. The OP asked if any QB that transferred had any real success in his ONLY year at the new school. I assume he was speaking in terms of Newton, Wilson, etc., when speaking about "college football free agency."
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:18 pm to LSUgrad88
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Let me see if I have this. Don't offer a one year scholarship to a player who has proven he is Heisman caliber, who only lost his job because he got hurt, and probably won't be given the opportunity to get it back because both J.T. Barrett and Cardale Jones have several years of eligibility left (and Miller would have only one). Don't do this because it might tempt our current back-up QB to consider transferring; a backup QB who has been rumored to have awful work habits; and played one of the worst games I've ever seen a QB play in his one start against Auburn. Seriously?
So Urban Meyer must be a great coach since he is not giving the starting job back to a guy who only has one year left. So your argument contradicts itself since you think it is alright for him to come here now and enable the chance of development of our younger QBs. So you are telling me Miles and Urban have completely different views? I agree with Urban and he is in the NCG with a 3rd stringer.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:20 pm to tadelatt
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Here is the List to /thread and your point...
TROY AIKMAN - Oklahoma to UCLA (Broke ankle)
Nick Foles - Michigan St to Arizona
Brock Berlin - Florida to Miami
Ryan Mallett - Michigan to Arkansas
Jeremiah Masoli - Oregon to Ole Miss
Russell Wilson - NC St. to Wisconsin
Gunner Kiel - LSU to Notre Dame to Cincy
Jeff Hostetler - Penn St to West Virginia
Joe Flacco - Pittsburgh to Delaware
Colt Brennan - Colorado to Hawaii
Jeff George - Purdue to Miami to Illinois
Tom Savage - Rutgers to Pittsburgh
Cam Newton - Florida to JUCO to Auburn
Zach Mettenberger - Georgia to JUCO to LSU
Nick Marshall - JUCO to Auburn
This is clearly not a list fitting the description of QBs with one year left who were beat out of a starting job.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:23 pm to Bayoufightingtiger
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So Urban Meyer must be a great coach since he is not giving the starting job back to a guy who only has one year left. So your argument contradicts itself since you think it is alright for him to come here now and enable the chance of development of our younger QBs.
the difference is that OSUs young QBs have proven that they can win and win big
ours have not
Posted on 1/6/15 at 1:58 pm to Bayoufightingtiger
Who cares?! We need a QB and I hope we get Miller or Golson. They are leaps and bounds ahead of what we have.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 2:03 pm to catholictigerfan
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He would easily get that at LSU.
Never know with Les in charge.
Posted on 1/6/15 at 2:04 pm to Bayoufightingtiger
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So your argument contradicts itself
No it doesn't. He's explaining why he feels Urban won't start Miller if he stays. He just didn't state the obvious, which is that, you know, OSU QBs >>>> LSU QBs.
If Jennings and Harris were playing like Barrett and Jones, Miles would piss himself laughing at the thought of giving Miller a scholarship.
But they haven't, so no contradiction.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 2:05 pm
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