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CFP Rankings released Tuesday... Post yours
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:07 pm
Big segment going on right now on SVP/Russillo about SEC bias, basically making fun of the rest of the country for their flawed logic about why the SEC isn't the best.
Just got me thinking again about the playoff. What are your rankings? What are you basing it off of? For me, it's a lot about the schedule you've played and how you've looked. Overall resume, really.
Do I think LSU would beat Ohio State right now? Yes. Would I rank them higher? Probably not. Even though if you switched the schedules, LSU would be undefeated and Ohio State would probably have three losses. So is that the right way to do it? I don't know. It's what makes these things hard to judge.
Anyways... I have Alabama lower than most. They have one good win so far. I think they may be better than Ole Miss, but since they played head-to-head and lost the game, I'll have to concede to that for now. Auburn has two good wins. TCU has a resume with 3 good wins already, and they destroyed Minnesota, which could end up being Ohio State's 2nd or 3rd best win of the regular season.
I'm not high on the Big Ten, and there is no reason to be right now. They'll have to do something to change a lot of people's opinions. I have Kansas State higher than most people, and Georgia and Notre Dame lower than most. Besides two close road losses, what exactly have those two teams done this season? I think Oregon is getting healthier, and since the Pac 12 is pretty overrated to me, I'd be surprised if they don't win out. I think the Arizona State and Utah's of the world aren't as good as their records indicate.
And I think Baylor is a fraud who can't beat anyone decent on the road. Like usual.
1) Mississippi State
2) Florida State
3) Auburn
4) TCU
5) Ole Miss
6) Alabama
7) Oregon
8) Kansas State
9) Notre Dame
10) Georgia
11) Baylor
12) Michigan State
13) Ohio State
14) Arizona
15) LSU
16) Oklahoma
17) West Virginia
18) Arizona State
19) Utah
20) Nebraska
21) East Carolina
22) Duke
23) Clemson
24) Marshall
25) UCLA
Just got me thinking again about the playoff. What are your rankings? What are you basing it off of? For me, it's a lot about the schedule you've played and how you've looked. Overall resume, really.
Do I think LSU would beat Ohio State right now? Yes. Would I rank them higher? Probably not. Even though if you switched the schedules, LSU would be undefeated and Ohio State would probably have three losses. So is that the right way to do it? I don't know. It's what makes these things hard to judge.
Anyways... I have Alabama lower than most. They have one good win so far. I think they may be better than Ole Miss, but since they played head-to-head and lost the game, I'll have to concede to that for now. Auburn has two good wins. TCU has a resume with 3 good wins already, and they destroyed Minnesota, which could end up being Ohio State's 2nd or 3rd best win of the regular season.
I'm not high on the Big Ten, and there is no reason to be right now. They'll have to do something to change a lot of people's opinions. I have Kansas State higher than most people, and Georgia and Notre Dame lower than most. Besides two close road losses, what exactly have those two teams done this season? I think Oregon is getting healthier, and since the Pac 12 is pretty overrated to me, I'd be surprised if they don't win out. I think the Arizona State and Utah's of the world aren't as good as their records indicate.
And I think Baylor is a fraud who can't beat anyone decent on the road. Like usual.
1) Mississippi State
2) Florida State
3) Auburn
4) TCU
5) Ole Miss
6) Alabama
7) Oregon
8) Kansas State
9) Notre Dame
10) Georgia
11) Baylor
12) Michigan State
13) Ohio State
14) Arizona
15) LSU
16) Oklahoma
17) West Virginia
18) Arizona State
19) Utah
20) Nebraska
21) East Carolina
22) Duke
23) Clemson
24) Marshall
25) UCLA
16
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:08 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:it truly was a great segment
Big segment going on right now on SVP/Russillo about SEC bias,
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:14 pm to BayouBengals03
Miss State
FSU
Auburn
Ole Miss
Alabama
To me the one thing I will be watching for is Ole Miss and Bama. The committee loses all credibility if they have Bama ranked ahead of Ole Miss at this point.
FSU
Auburn
Ole Miss
Alabama
To me the one thing I will be watching for is Ole Miss and Bama. The committee loses all credibility if they have Bama ranked ahead of Ole Miss at this point.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:19 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:
Big segment going on right now on SVP/Russillo about SEC bias, basically making fun of the rest of the country for their flawed logic about why the SEC isn't the best.
Russillo's tweets were great
SIAP
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:20 pm to BayouBengals03
when they release their rankings tomorrow are they saying that their top 4 is how they would slot the playoff today? Or they going to release this all year as an advertisement for the playoff and then pick a nationally representative playoff with a bunch of conference champions?
If the list on Tuesday is supposed to be a playoff snapshot, I think it'll be
1. MSU
2. FSU
3. TCU
4. Oregon
5. ND
6-9 SEC teams.
Doing that will make it a lot easier not to include multiple SEC teams at the end. If they mirror the rankings with the polls right now they're going to look stupid if they knock a 1 loss Auburn out of the playoff that was sitting at number 2 in their poll just because MSU wins out hypothetically.
And I don't think there is much of a reason to include 2 SEC teams in this playoff. Make it as national as possible and let us see some games we otherwise don't get to see.
The reality is that I think the playoff is:
FSU Slot
SECC Slot
Oregon Slot
Wild Card.
If FSU or Oregon lose again it gets really crazy, but for now that's the end game. TCU should have the inside track on the 4th slot if they can manage to win out.
If the list on Tuesday is supposed to be a playoff snapshot, I think it'll be
1. MSU
2. FSU
3. TCU
4. Oregon
5. ND
6-9 SEC teams.
Doing that will make it a lot easier not to include multiple SEC teams at the end. If they mirror the rankings with the polls right now they're going to look stupid if they knock a 1 loss Auburn out of the playoff that was sitting at number 2 in their poll just because MSU wins out hypothetically.
And I don't think there is much of a reason to include 2 SEC teams in this playoff. Make it as national as possible and let us see some games we otherwise don't get to see.
The reality is that I think the playoff is:
FSU Slot
SECC Slot
Oregon Slot
Wild Card.
If FSU or Oregon lose again it gets really crazy, but for now that's the end game. TCU should have the inside track on the 4th slot if they can manage to win out.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:21 pm to burdman
What's up with the last one?
Missouri played at Indiana last year.
Missouri played at Indiana last year.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:23 pm to KosmoCramer
He was be sarcastic. He wanted to see what it was like to be a Big 10 fan for the day.
Said he didn't know at the time that Mizzou had played there last year.
Said he didn't know at the time that Mizzou had played there last year.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:23 pm to castorinho
quote:
The committee loses all credibility if they have Bama ranked ahead of Ole Miss at this point.
They will be
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:24 pm to castorinho
quote:
The committee loses all credibility if they have Bama ranked ahead of Ole Miss at this point.
They can't "lose all credibility" in the first week.
I think Alabama is a better team than Ole Miss. They lost the game, though.
If somehow the 4th playoff spot came down to a 1-loss Alabama and a 1-loss Ole Miss, they'd pick Ole Miss because of the head-to-head.
ETA: And that would mean Ole Miss goes to the SEC Championship Game. So yeah.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:24 pm to CrippleCreek
Who does Oregon have left to play? Stanford and who else ?
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:25 pm to Walt OReilly
@ Utah
The Civil War
&
Pac-12 Championship
The Civil War
&
Pac-12 Championship
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:26 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:
If somehow the 4th playoff spot came down to a 1-loss Alabama and a 1-loss Ole Miss, they'd pick Ole Miss because of the head-to-head.
They would pick OM because they would have played an extra game and won their conference in that scenario.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:28 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:
They would pick OM because they would have played an extra game and won their conference in that scenario.
What if Mississippi State loses to Ole Miss, three way tie.
What are the SEC tiebreak procedures?
ETA: Ole Miss goes because they are 2-0 vs Bama and MSU.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:29 pm to KosmoCramer
I saw them a few days ago. Give me a minute I can find them.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:30 pm to TreyAnastasio
quote:
Three-Team Tie (or more)
If three teams (or more) are tied for a division title, the following procedure will be used in the following order: (Note: If one of the procedures results in one team being eliminated and two remaining, the two-team tiebreaker procedure as stated in No. 1 above will be used):
A. Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams
B. Record of the tied teams within the division
C. Head-to-head competition against the team within the division with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through the division (multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last and a tie for first place will be broken before a tie for fourth place)
D. Overall Conference record against non-divisional teams
E. Combined record against all common non-divisional teams
F. Record against the common non-divisional team with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division; and
G. Changed: Combined SEC record of the team’s cross-divisional opponents
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:30 pm to KosmoCramer
It would be who played the toughest schedule out of the East.
State played Kentucky and Vandy.
Ole Miss played Tennessee and Vandy.
Alabama played Tennessee and Florida.
So the lowest would be knocked out and it would go to head-to-head. Kentucky should win more than Tennessee. It would probably come down to Alabama and State, and Alabama would have beaten them head-to-head in this scenario.
ETA: Nvm. This would be if they all beat each other.
That went out the window when Ole Miss lost to LSU.
State played Kentucky and Vandy.
Ole Miss played Tennessee and Vandy.
Alabama played Tennessee and Florida.
So the lowest would be knocked out and it would go to head-to-head. Kentucky should win more than Tennessee. It would probably come down to Alabama and State, and Alabama would have beaten them head-to-head in this scenario.
ETA: Nvm. This would be if they all beat each other.
That went out the window when Ole Miss lost to LSU.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:32 pm to BayouBengals03
The way I read it, it would be the combined head to head record.
Ole Miss would be 2-0
Bama would be 1-1 as would MSU.
Ole Miss would be 2-0
Bama would be 1-1 as would MSU.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:33 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
The way I read it, it would be the combined head to head record.
Ole Miss would be 2-0
Bama would be 1-1 as would MSU.
You are right.
I'll leave mine up there for people wondering what would happen if it did come down to the last tie-breaker though. Because that is a question that has come up a lot.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:34 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:
I think they may be better than Ole Miss, but since they played head-to-head and lost the game, I'll have to concede to that for now.
This is where I stand, we'll rely on the "eye test" for teams that haven't played each other but when two teams have actually played and the team that lost hasn't done anything exceptional yet, you have to go by that until Ole Miss loses again.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 2:35 pm to castorinho
quote:
you have to go by that until Ole Miss loses again.
Theyre going down this week
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