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re: British gov't promises to do anything it can to get an NFL team in London
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:37 pm to TROLA
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:37 pm to TROLA
The only way I could see this working (and it's still a stretch) is if they play 4 consecutive road games at a time twice a year. And they have a set place for them to stay and practice in the US during that time. A home away from home type of deal.
It really does sound like it'd be a nightmare.
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I couldn't imagine being the salary cap guru for a foreign team..
It really does sound like it'd be a nightmare.
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:38 pm to constant cough
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Looks like their government is focused on the important things just like ours.
Congress needs to do whatever it takes to get a Premiere League team in America.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:55 pm to Brummy
One of the first hurdles to handle after they finish with the travel and time zone issues would be the tax issues. Their tax code is more aggressive and as I understand their laws would require players who play a game in London to pay a significant portion of their income as tax to the British government. If this were true (as it seemed to be for track and field stars) I'd think the NFL players' association should be completely against this kind of expansion. NBA teams in Canada probably would have nothing on the financial penalty of a NFL team in Britain.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:56 pm to Brummy
I only see this working if they have an entire 4 team division in Europe.
That's 6 games not requiring transatlantic flight in division.
4 more home games in Europe for 2 team visiting for other conference division and opposing conference visitors. (10 total played over there so far). Have the travelling American teams from these divisions play them back to back and be done, same for euro teams against the 2 American teams from these divisions. (that's 2 trans Atlantic trips for euros and 1 for each division playing them.)
You now only have 2 more games to figure out for euros (1 home and 1 away). You could likely tack it on to one of of the two transatlantic trips and be done.
I think you'd have to build training facilities /hotels for the euro teams in centralized locations and same in Europe for American teams to make it easier for extended trips.
That's 6 games not requiring transatlantic flight in division.
4 more home games in Europe for 2 team visiting for other conference division and opposing conference visitors. (10 total played over there so far). Have the travelling American teams from these divisions play them back to back and be done, same for euro teams against the 2 American teams from these divisions. (that's 2 trans Atlantic trips for euros and 1 for each division playing them.)
You now only have 2 more games to figure out for euros (1 home and 1 away). You could likely tack it on to one of of the two transatlantic trips and be done.
I think you'd have to build training facilities /hotels for the euro teams in centralized locations and same in Europe for American teams to make it easier for extended trips.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 10/22/14 at 6:57 pm to molsusports
i know they mentioned(NFL), that they would build a training facility on east coast, and that midwest and west coast teams would leave for the facility on Monday, have 3-4 days of training, then head to England. Train a day and play game
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:01 pm to WeBleedCrimson
1. 
That logo.
2. How about a High School or College team in London first?
3. Good luck in free agency.
4. All challenges must be initiated with "Ohhh Reginald.......I Disagree!!!".
That logo. 2. How about a High School or College team in London first?
3. Good luck in free agency.
4. All challenges must be initiated with "Ohhh Reginald.......I Disagree!!!".
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:02 pm to Chad504boy
Aw, frick it. Let them have it.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:07 pm to stlslick
More than likely they would do something like 8 games in London, then the team would go on an 8 week tour in America. They wouldn't have a normal NFL schedule. Or something like 4 games in England, 4 in the US, 4 in England, 4 in the US.
And I'm sure Parliament would work something out with the contracts to make it easier.
Playoffs would be interesting though. Unless it was the Jags that moved, then they wouldn't have to worry about playoffs for awhile.
And I'm sure Parliament would work something out with the contracts to make it easier.
Playoffs would be interesting though. Unless it was the Jags that moved, then they wouldn't have to worry about playoffs for awhile.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:14 pm to DrVinnyBoombatz
That's an interesting suggestion. Perhaps four games at home for two separate stretches during the year? You'd also be really heavily penalizing both them when they traveled to Seattle, Phoenix, SF, Oakland, Denver etc or those teams when they traveled to London.
I don't suppose the NFL would finally start doing something obvious and start more heavily considering the bye weeks, MNF, and TNF games when arranging complex schedules but it would make a bitter pill easier to swallow if a team from the west coast could travel to London the week before their bye week to let them recover from travel before their next game
I don't suppose the NFL would finally start doing something obvious and start more heavily considering the bye weeks, MNF, and TNF games when arranging complex schedules but it would make a bitter pill easier to swallow if a team from the west coast could travel to London the week before their bye week to let them recover from travel before their next game
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:20 pm to molsusports
The NFL, media, owners, and players will have to make sacrifices if they want to expand overseas. It will be a bitch for awhile until they can expand into other European markets, which they will probably be doing within 2-3 years if the London team is somewhat successful.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:28 pm to Brummy
For a name, How about the Ole England Redcoats?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:04 pm to molsusports
Their soccer teams don't seem to have trouble attracting international talent with mega salaries. Anyone know how that works?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:58 pm to Hazelnut
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The only way I could see this working (and it's still a stretch) is if they play 4 consecutive road games at a time twice a year. And they have a set place for them to stay and practice in the US during that time. A home away from home type of deal.
If the league expands it would be real easy because you put multiple teams in London or Europe in general.
If it just say the jags for example. You just have the visiting team play a road game on the east coast and have them fly to London that night. On a chartered plane it won't be that bad. Let them practice in London for the week like they do now and play the game on sunday. Fly back to the US after the game and have a bye week. The league might have to 18 weeks but still 16 games so each team has 2 bye weeks. For the London Jags, they would fly to the US for games on the previous sun, practice all week at a training center somewhere in the US and then travel and play the game. Repeat so that roads trips are atleast 2 games long.
The only major logistical problem I see would be the playoffs.
As far as the salary cap goes, that can be adjusted and their are plenty of accounting majors that need jobs. Both the NBA and NHL deal with it because they have teams in Canada.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:27 pm to WeeWee
For reference:
San Diego to Boston 5h38m
Boston to London 6h24m
San Diego to Boston 5h38m
Boston to London 6h24m
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:33 pm to Celery
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Their soccer teams don't seem to have trouble attracting international talent with mega salaries. Anyone know how that works?
no salary cap
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:42 pm to Kafka
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What are they now? I know in the '70s they went up to 83% (and 98% on investments!!!)
IIRC it's currently 40% on everything over $80k. Sales tax is a flat 20% on everything except food and a few other things. The real problem is going to be that Uncle Sam also wants a cut of earnings abroad.
And whoever posted the article which states that the NFL isn't as popular in London as it makes out, that's completely true. I lived there until 2012. It's not that English people are unaware of the NFL, it's that football is actively disliked by many people who don't care for or understand it - England is an insular, self-regarding shithole for the most part (and this is coming from someone currently living in Texas).
ETA: Also, the price of housing in London is insane, it's like another tax. It's worse than New York. In Fort Worth you sometimes hear people blathering about a house costing, get this, $250k, like it's some huge amount. Makes me laugh. I'm not even sure you can buy a three bedroom house anywhere in London for that. A three bed terraced house in Chelsea costs about 1.5m gbp, so over $2m. frick knows what a detached (i.e. not attached to anyone else's) house would cost there. Not everyone wants to live in Chelsea, but even in say, Bromley, which isn't even in London, you pay $400k for a three bedroomed terraced house.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:43 pm to tween the hedges
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What player would sign for a team that has to make a transatlantic flight 8 times a season. I guess they could block their road games into having like 4 in a row or something, but nobody with roots here wants to go play football over there
Yeah, you would have to have a minimum of 4 games on each trip to the US, may need 2 teams in Europe and 2 in Canada, 36 teams, NFL would be truly international
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:47 pm to Mephistopheles
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And whoever posted the article which states that the NFL isn't as popular in London as it makes out, that's completely true. I lived there until 2012. It's not that English people are unaware of the NFL, it's that football is actively disliked by many people who don't care for or understand it - England is an insular, self-regarding shithole for the most part (and this is coming from someone currently living in Texas).
Too complicated for Soccer/Futbol hooligans, my buddy grew up in SO Africa, totally a soccer dude but after living in the US for a few years he likes the complexity of football.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:12 pm to Hazelnut
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The only way I could see this working (and it's still a stretch) is if they play 4 consecutive road games at a time twice a year. And they have a set place for them to stay and practice in the US during that time. A home away from home type of dea
There will probably be an empty practice facility in Jacksonville.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 12:20 am to Brummy
Nfl is nearly dead anyway.
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