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re: Bonine- the 2013 LHSAA split wasn't passed properly... OVERTURNED
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:52 pm to ProjectP2294
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:52 pm to ProjectP2294
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At the time of split, they didn't get their kids that way or if they did, there was a way to manipulate it. But that was when OP Walker and LB Landry were still separate, so that certainly could have changed. I was working in Algiers at the time and knew the athletic director of the charter school system that ran OP Walker and (at that time) Karr. They specifically applied to be exempt from select status even though they had open enrollment and should have been select.
every NOLA charter school save for BF and Lusher maybe is subject to OneApp... technically NOLA using the entire parish as their attendance zone is no different than Chalmette using all of St. Bernard, or the only schools in several North LA parishes
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:54 pm to chalmetteowl
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whoever has the bad blood needs to look in the mirror... and ask themselves "am i the problem? or the solution?"
Haha. You're right. But quasi-governments don't work that way.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:11 pm to Mr Eko
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choupiquesushi
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total split coming anyway.... too much bad blood.
nearly every public coach, principal or AD i have come in contact wants full split now in all sports.. at least 8 out of 10
There will be even more bad blood by the public schools by dropping this the way that they did. This is going to get ugly and it may be the end of the LHSAA as we know it.
agree but the previous ten - twelve years was a cancer....
you guys thinking publics can't survive - rural publics can survive fine - and many of the outer suburbs..
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:15 pm to chalmetteowl
A great day for LA HS football.
I do think we were cheated out of some great postseason games the last two years, though.
I do think we were cheated out of some great postseason games the last two years, though.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:17 pm to RedPop4
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I've read where it's drastically different in other parts of the state, but if there are two associations, Greater New Orleans publics will suffer, save for Fountainbleau and Mandeville.
River Parish schools will feel no effect. They have better support than almost anywhere not named West Monroe.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:21 pm to Methuselah
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Heck, if I remember right they fought not to have the number of private school classes reduced. (really, the number of classes for both sides should have been reduced but the privates should have been reduced more to keep the same number of schools per class for each).
They fought that so a small 2A school with 240 kids didnt have to play a small 4A school with 500 kids. That wouldnt be safe or fair and the whole split was passed under the guise of "fairness".
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:23 pm to double d
If a shakeup happens and the rules say Chalmette cannot play Holy Cross, I hope we sue for our right to...
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:25 pm to CyrustheVirus
quote:remember when U-High whined about that and then went ahead and scheduled 5A schools in nondistrict?
They fought that so a small 2A school with 240 kids didnt have to play a small 4A school with 500 kids. That wouldnt be safe or fair and the whole split was passed under the guise of "fairness".
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:30 pm to CyrustheVirus
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They fought that so a small 2A school with 240 kids didnt have to play a small 4A school with 500 kids. That wouldnt be safe or fair and the whole split was passed under the guise of "fairness".
The only issue (or the only one that was completely valid) was the 2A argument.
It really isn't right that Curtis, for example, is pulling in and training top talent from Jefferson, Orleans and Vicinity, and then playing against North Louisiana/one consolidated school for the parish/dirt poor public school whose entire parish population is smaller than Lafayette High School.
Winnfield's principal caught a lot of hate for that, but she's right. A school like Winnfield if they play in 2A has no chance. Kinder won 2 2A titles during the split era. If it goes back to the old ways, they'll lose 48-7 to Curtis in the quarters.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:37 pm to lsutigers1992
We need to do the right thing and take away that tainted Catholic High State Title.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:40 pm to wildtigercat93
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We need to do the right thing and take away that tainted Catholic High State Title.
Somebody I know from Dutchtown said they wanted to appeal to play in the select division. They lost to Zachary twice and lost to Lutcher, but beat Catholic 42-7 at Olympia.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:40 pm to lsutigers1992
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It really isn't right that Curtis, for example, is pulling in and training top talent from Jefferson, Orleans and Vicinity, and then playing against North Louisiana/one consolidated school for the parish/dirt poor public school whose entire parish population is smaller than Lafayette High School.
Winnfield's principal caught a lot of hate for that, but she's right. A school like Winnfield if they play in 2A has no chance. Kinder won 2 2A titles during the split era. If it goes back to the old ways, they'll lose 48-7 to Curtis in the quarters.
Indeed. If Curtis had played up to 5A a long time ago, the split never happens.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:44 pm to Jwho77
quote:idk... i think someone else becomes the scapegoat...
Indeed. If Curtis had played up to 5A a long time ago, the split never happens.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:45 pm to lsutigers1992
quote:I love transitive property in sports. Especially high school sports. In 2014 Rummel beat the piss out of Acadiana who absolutely coasted their way through the 5a title
Somebody I know from Dutchtown said they wanted to appeal to play in the select division. They lost to Zachary twice and lost to Lutcher, but beat Catholic 42-7 at Olympia.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:53 pm to double d
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River Parish schools will feel no effect. They have better support than almost anywhere not named West Monroe.
This. Schools like Lutcher, St. James, Destrehan, Hahnville, West St. John, etc. will do fine. I've seen lot of claims about how the public schools will suffer but haven't seen an empirical evidence.
My take is that if the Private schools think it is in their best interest to form their own association, they will do so and would have done so long ago, with or without a split. It would be irrational for them to leave just out of spite but equally irrational for them to stay if it is in their best interest to go.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:57 pm to Methuselah
quote:The two biggest cities in the state, which makeup about 50% of the states total population, would basically have to end their high school programs. You dont think that is empirical evidence?
I've seen lot of claims about how the public schools will suffer but haven't seen an empirical evidence.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:59 pm to Methuselah
quote:if you're the schools you mentioned and you're losing gates from SCC and Riverside, how do you not suffer?
I've seen lot of claims about how the public schools will suffer but haven't seen an empirical evidence.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:08 pm to lsupride87
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The two biggest cities in the state, which makeup about 50% of the states total population, would basically have to end their high school programs. You dont think that is empirical evidence?
If I was one of the people making a decision on this matter I would have to see evidence rather than a bold claim about schools ending their programs. In other words, proof, not words.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:09 pm to Methuselah
quote:The only money brought in from the Baton Rouge schools is from the private schools gates. Same with NOLA for the most part. If you take away that money those programs who are already poor are going to lose the only income stream they have.
If I was one of the people making a decision on this matter I would have to see evidence rather than a bold claim about schools ending their programs. In other words, proof, not words.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:18 pm to choupiquesushi
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you guys thinking publics can't survive - rural publics can survive fine - and many of the outer suburbs..
Agreed. The public schools can and will survive on their own. It's a New Orleans/Baton Rouge view of public vs private way of thinking that gets posted on this site. The public schools that will suffer the most on the field are already suffering to function properly as schools much less sports programs. The dynamics of this whole thing are more than the common person understands. People is South Louisiana don't really grasp that 90% of North Louisiana does not care one single bit what would happen if private schools leave the association. That's a big portion that gets to vote on a "solution."
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