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re: Baylor is like the Oregon of the past couple of years except...

Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

Baylor is a pass first offense no matter who is qb

who is running the ever living frick out of the ball this year
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:53 pm to
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who is running the ever living frick out of the ball this year



The problem for them in the past is they haven't been able to grind out a game when they have to. They had negative rushing yards if i recall against MSU last year. They aren't wired to grind out a game.

People say Oregon and OSU play the same, and perhaps they run the same concepts. However, OSU will grind the F out of anyone they can, and did it against multiple good teams to close it out last year.

Baylor won't get the benefit of that until they are able to run against a team who knows it's coming
Posted by 632627
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:56 pm to
They are averaging 750 total yards per game and have blown out a bunch of shitty teams, so they are racking up a bunch of rushing yards in the second half of games. their rushing ypg will drop as the season progresses.

It's like someone said, Oregon spreads it to run, Baylor spreads it to throw.

Baylors offense is a thing of beauty no doubt.
Posted by lsutigers1992
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

who is running the ever living frick out of the ball this year

Posted by AcetylCoA
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 6:19 pm to
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Florida (twice), Auburn, and OSU have won titles running a spread option offense like Oregon's

that's half the titles the past 10 years

I don't know if anyone has corrected you yet but Oregon has been a stretch option team, they mostly reach block. AU, and all of Urban teams pretty much combo to backer on every play besides their powers and counters. Very seldom do I see them try to block guys to the sideline. They may run out of spread looks but it's basic power football.
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KosmoCramer

Nevermind I see that you corrected him. I saw Cam run midline and veers from the gun while at AU. Just because the formations are spread doesn't mean it's the same scheme. Urban punches teams in the mouth.
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 6:26 pm
Posted by Volmanac
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 6:25 pm to
Read the article I posted earlier in this thread.they beat Bama because of outside zone concepts taken from Oregon.
Posted by lsutigers1992
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 6:25 pm to
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I don't know if anyone has corrected you yet but Oregon has been a stretch option team, they mostly reach block. AU, and all of Urban teams pretty much combo to backer on every play besides their powers and counters. Very seldom do I see them try to block guys to the sideline. They may run out of spread looks but it's basic power football.


Oregon and Baylor both more resemble Gary Pinkel's Missouri offense in the late 2000s than any Urban Meyer team, even if they spread the field. It's like about a decade ago in the NFL when they basically called every offense "West Coast" or "a variation of the West Coast." At some point people started calling teams West Coast because "they throw the football a lot."
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 6:26 pm
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 6:30 pm to
Here to bust up the "Big 12 doesn't play defense" myth

If you follow my posts in the bet thread you know I model and compute my own college football statistics. One stat I have is "adjusted yards per play" which is basically yards per play adjusted to the strength of the opponent

Adjusted Defensive Yards Per Play National Rank:

Oklahoma - 6
West Virginia - 22
Baylor - 24
Oklahoma State - 26
TCU - 34

On a per-play basis its not bad. Of course Big 12 teams will allow more points, they have to defend more plays and possessions on average than other conferences

It's like comparing raw PPG averages in basketball to a team that plays against teams that run Princeton offenses vs. teams that play fast and lose offenses.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 7:21 pm to
How is their schedule sorry arse?
Posted by lilaznfish123
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:48 pm to
Their out of conference portion of their schedule is pathetic, year in and year out.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:58 pm to
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Their out of conference portion of their schedule is pathetic, year in and year out
Oh, so it's not their upcoming three games against a #3, #12 and #15 teams?
Posted by theducks
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 9:59 pm to
I actually thought Darron was an okay QB. He didn't have a pro arm nor did he have to make much reads. He also played with Jeff Maehl as his leading WR. I thought his feet was what doomed our offense. He was never really a threat to run. He ran a 4.8 40 years dash at the combine. I remember yelling at my TV in the Auburn game for him to RUN!
Posted by 632627
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:59 am to
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I actually thought Darron was an okay QB. He didn't have a pro arm nor did he have to make much reads. He also played with Jeff Maehl as his leading WR. I thought his feet was what doomed our offense. He was never really a threat to run. He ran a 4.8 40 years dash at the combine. I remember yelling at my TV in the Auburn game for him to RUN!



I'm pretty confident that if you guys had Mariota or even Masoli as your qb in 11 you would have beat auburn.
Posted by gameovergt
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 11:21 am to
TCU >
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 11:21 am to
Stanford
Arizona
Ohio State 2x...

look we can cherry pick games too
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 11:37 am to
Sorry baw. You are wrong. Watch the Bama game last year that is not a HUNH spread offense like Oregon has been doing.
Posted by Chitter Chatter
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 1:07 pm to
Well, Baylor is Oregon South with all their lack of identity and multiple uniform combos
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 1:13 pm to
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Oregon sucks so you decide to make a thread about Baylor to make yourself feel better.


That's pretty much how I'm reading this.
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