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re: Baylor is like the Oregon of the past couple of years except...
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the UO offense at its core is a spread option rushing attack
Ohio State is more of a power spread team that mixes in spread option/zone read.
We run power, iso, wham, and counter out of a spread set with the jet sweep option on many plays.
I'm sure Oregon runs a little power, etc. but they run more zone read with a run-pass option that Ohio State uses very little if at all.
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:44 pm to RLDSC FAN
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I still believe that 07 Oregon would've won it all had Dixon not blown his knee out.
me too
and West Virginia would have won if pat white didn't get hurt in that Pitt game
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
SFP roasting the CFB stat watchers
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:47 pm to KosmoCramer
Oregon's team rushing (total) place the last 5 years
2010: 5
2011: 1
2012: 4
2013: 9
2014: 10
they are a running team
2010: 5
2011: 1
2012: 4
2013: 9
2014: 10
they are a running team
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
total yards instead of ypg 
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
I never said they weren't a running team.
Again, they aren't a power running team. They run the zone read and mix in some power concepts.
Ohio State runs power, iso, wham, counter trey, etc. and then mix in the zone read (especially with JT Barrett). With Cardale, they basically abandonned the zone read because he's awful at the mesh point. That's why Zeke went off, we ran power and counter all day vs Oregon.
When Oregon is at it's best, they force the defense to add men to the box to stop their running game and they pick them apart in the air. Teams with solid line play, can read and react in the 2nd and third levels since their DL is so good. You know this.
Again, they aren't a power running team. They run the zone read and mix in some power concepts.
Ohio State runs power, iso, wham, counter trey, etc. and then mix in the zone read (especially with JT Barrett). With Cardale, they basically abandonned the zone read because he's awful at the mesh point. That's why Zeke went off, we ran power and counter all day vs Oregon.
When Oregon is at it's best, they force the defense to add men to the box to stop their running game and they pick them apart in the air. Teams with solid line play, can read and react in the 2nd and third levels since their DL is so good. You know this.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:52 pm to SprintFun
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We don't run Oregon or Baylor offense. We spread the field to run, they spread the field to pass. Do you even watch football?
Hey Dumbass, read this article on Grantland about the "Oregonization" Urban Meyer's offense.
LINK
Do you seriously know anything about your own team's offense?
Do YOU watch football?
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:53 pm to SprintFun
the original comment was
if we're comparing the rushing stats b/c UO and OSU, it hurts OSU, too (b/c of the extra games) so i don't get your point
you slide from 5 to 9 in 2014 and in 2013 UO stays at 9 while you slide from 2 to 5
2012: 3
2011: 5
2010: 4
devastating change when going to per/game rankings, especially, again, when i was replying to:
quote:
We don't run Oregon or Baylor offense. We spread the field to run, they spread the field to pass
if we're comparing the rushing stats b/c UO and OSU, it hurts OSU, too (b/c of the extra games) so i don't get your point
you slide from 5 to 9 in 2014 and in 2013 UO stays at 9 while you slide from 2 to 5
2012: 3
2011: 5
2010: 4
devastating change when going to per/game rankings, especially, again, when i was replying to:
quote:
We don't run Oregon or Baylor offense. We spread the field to run, they spread the field to pass
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:53 pm to lsutigers1992
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a team that needed a miracle to beat Temple, can roll them in a BCS game.
This might be the stupidest thing I have read all day.
Congrats on that.
You are seriously saying the 2013 UCF team is equivalent to the 2015 UCF team. I'm surprised no one has called you out on this.
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We don't run Oregon or Baylor offense. We spread the field to run, they spread the field to pass. Do you even watch football?
We don't spread the field to pass. We are a run first offense that establishes the run to set up the pass. Teams that beat us are able to take away the run and force us into a one dimensional passing team.
We are 2nd in the nation in rushing ypg at 348
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:53 pm to Volmanac
You think OSU and Oregon run the same offense?
Fantastic.
Fantastic.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:55 pm to Volmanac
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Do you seriously know anything about your own team's offense?
Do YOU watch football?
Ohio State has gone away from the zone read because teams are playing a bear front on us.
Do YOU watch FOOTBALL?
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:55 pm to KosmoCramer
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I never said they weren't a running team.
SpiritFun did
quote:
We don't run Oregon or Baylor offense. We spread the field to run, they spread the field to pass
and just so we're clear, Baylor is #2 in rushing ypg this year and tied for 1st in ypc
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:55 pm to SprintFun
CLICK ON THE GOD DAMNED ARTICLE.
How are you this stupid?
How are you this stupid?
Posted on 10/18/15 at 4:56 pm to KosmoCramer
I'm talking about last year when Oregon concepts won SprintFun's own team a national fricking title.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:03 pm to lsutigers1992
Baylor has playmakers on the outside Oregon could only dream about.
Also whilw not a good defense Obaylie has athletes and playmakers in that side of the ball. Oakman is6'9 275 and could start anywhere in the country. Will be a first day drAft pick
Also whilw not a good defense Obaylie has athletes and playmakers in that side of the ball. Oakman is6'9 275 and could start anywhere in the country. Will be a first day drAft pick
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Texas, Florida (twice), Auburn, and OSU have won titles running a spread option offense like Oregon's
that's half the titles the past 10 years
Oh, I get it. It's a variation of it. I'll give you that. But none those teams ran an "ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!," 58-second touchdown drive offenses predicated on going as fast as possible, never taking a breath on offense and keeping the core defenses on the field by never giving them a chance to substitute.
And all of those teams won with defense as much as they won with offense. Even the 2005 Texas team, playing in a wide-open, shootout-oriented Big 12 conference, didn't give up 30 until they played USC and won.
Every week with Oregon and now Baylor and even TCU, they're giving up 35 a contest. Half the teams Baylor played (including Lamar) scored 30 on them. TCU has given up between 37 and 52 points 3 times as well. Last year's Oregon team gave up 24 or more half the season.
When one of these teams can win a game against a 10-win team by shutting them down in the 4th quarter or playing the opponent's brand of football because their offense isn't working or the other team is dictating the tempo with THEIR offense, then I'll stop.
I mean, take LSU for example. If LSU and Baylor met in a playoff, do you see anything that would say that Baylor has any chance on defense to stop Fournette, Williams and Guice and not wear them out? And if Baylor does score 3 plays after they get the ball back, their defense goes back on the field after 45 gametime seconds have run off the clock and they get worn down some more?
That's how teams like Baylor lose. Their defenses wear out in the 4th quarter because they're been on the field 2/3 of the ball game, and if their offense has a less than one possession lead late, they don't have the personnel and offensive mentality to run the clock and ice the game. Instead, they go incomplete/out of bounds/incomplete three and out and give the ball back 14 seconds later.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:07 pm to lsutigers1992
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TCU has given up between 37 and 52 points 3 times as well.
nobody is really talking about TCU in here b/c they literally don't have a defense this year due to injury
if Alabama or LSU suffered the injuries TCU has, we'd have shite for D as well
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I mean, take LSU for example. If LSU and Baylor met in a playoff, do you see anything that would say that Baylor has any chance on defense to stop Fournette, Williams and Guice and not wear them out?
they have some DL talent but they play for limiting red zone opportunities and getting turnovers, so LSU would run over them
the question is how often LSU could stop Baylor, b/c that would likely be a fricking shite show
baylor would have put up 50 on that LSU D we saw last night
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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baylor would have put up 50 on that LSU D we saw last night
I agree with that. However, I think with LSU's tempo (and we both presume Baylor couldn't stop LSU either), the game would be in the 30s and not the 50s. And I have more faith, even after last night, that at some point Louis Neal, Kevin Toliver or Jamal Adams would eventually make a big play to turn the tide than that Baylor would make the big stop on their defense (considering LSU doesn't turn the ball over).
And I don't think last night's 28 was that bad. 21 came on a muffed punt in the Red Zone, a punt return TD, and a blown assignment. I was more disappointed with the 2nd half offense than I was with the defense, but that's another story.
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:47 pm to BeYou
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This might be the stupidest thing I have read all day.
Congrats on that.
You are seriously saying the 2013 UCF team is equivalent to the 2015 UCF team. I'm surprised no one has called you out on this.
Okay. Tell me where I compared 2013 UCF to 2015 UCF. 2015 was an 11-1 conference champ going into that Fiesta Bowl, and they were so lowly regarded that they were ranked 15th. They had one quality win in their 6th game. That season they needed a miracle and scored 10 points in the last 1:06 (and a miracle one-handed catch in the end zone) to beat a 2-10 Temple team. They also needed a 4th quarter comeback to beat a 2-10 USF team, and a touchdown with 17 seconds left to go in the game to beat a 5-7 SMU team to get their BCS bid.
They were garbage at the end of the season. They were scoring 20 points at the end of the year against crap and then went Blake Bortles went HAM and scored 52 on Baylor.
They were a 12-1 BCS winning team and finished 10th. 4 SEC teams finished ahead of them.
Do you understand now?
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
Oregon is a running team that adjusts their offense slightly depending on the qb. With darron Thomas they were handing the ball to the rb all the time, cuz he couldn't throw. Mariota allowed them to open up the vertical passing game and ran the ball himself a lot because he was so fast. Now with Adams they aren't really running zone read option because Adams isn't much of a running threat, so he is either handing it off or throwing it.
Baylor is a pass first offense no matter who is qb
Baylor is a pass first offense no matter who is qb
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