Active Starting Pitchers have virtually no shot at the HOF (except Kershaw)!

I'd think Scherzer would have a shot. 20k game, multiple no-no's, multiple Cy Youngs and several years to go.

Great starting pitchers have gone the way of the running back. Teams don't need ace starting pitchers to win anymore either in the regular season or the postseason. They just need guys who can eat up six innings and keep the game close before turning it over to their bullpen.

Kind of off topic, but how did Tim Lincecum fall off so bad? Always wondered that.

Verlander will get in

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I think Mad Bum has a case though

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Sandy Koufax had 165 wins and retired at age 30 in a workhorse, 4-man rotation era.

Mad Bum has 100 at age 26. He has to average 16 for 4 years to hit Koufax's marks.

Don Drysdale was in the same Dodgers rotation for 14 years in the same era, has 209 wins, and he's in.

Justin Verlander has been a starter for 11 seasons and has 173. He has to average 12 wins to age 36, and he hits those marks. Plus an MVP and 2 no-hitters.

I feel like eventually the criteria will change just as the game has changed. With innings limits and limiting starts, 250 is almost impossible. Don't think we will ever see a 300 game winner again.

Not to mention it seems like the media and voters have finally started to come around in regards to the stat

Bumgarner will get in, Verlander has a pretty good shot too I think. People don't care about wins anymore.

Verlander would be a lock but has been robbed of 2 Cy Youngs

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Great starting pitchers have gone the way of the running back. Teams don't need ace starting pitchers to win anymore either in the regular season or the postseason

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Bingo......