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re: Active Starting Pitchers have virtually no shot at the HOF (except Kershaw)!
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:56 pm to TexasTiger08
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:56 pm to TexasTiger08
Felix Hernandez has a good shot.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 4:19 pm to Undertow
Kershaw is in, as long as he doesnt have a career ending injury. Already one of the best pitchers of all time.
Felix Hernandez should be in as long as he can be a pretty good pitcher in his 30s. 6 year run where his lowest WAR was at 4.8. 154 wins, 3.29 FIP, and 51 WAR so far. Should be able to put up the longevity numbers to go along with his long dominant streak.
Justin Verlander's stats are very close to Hernandez's, but he is 3 years older. 5 years of WAR over 5 and a 6th at 4.9. 173 wins, 52 WAR, and a FIP of 3.44. I would say that he needs around three more good years before he can be seen as a HOF.
Max Scherzer is already 32 years old. Has had 4 straight great years, but his career started late, and has a ways to go. He would need a minimum of 4 very good years before I would even consider him.
Bumgarner is at great start at age 27, but he is so far out, who knows what would happen. 4-5 more great years should get him in, even without a very long career.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 4:25 pm to devils1854
Kershaw could never play again and would be in. hernandez will need at least one more 6 WAR season and two seasons of at least 4. Same for verlander. I think Scherzer needs two 6 WAR seasons and at least two 4 WAR seasons. Bumgarner is too far out
This post was edited on 1/7/17 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 1/7/17 at 4:37 pm to LandonC
The criteria within the voters mentality will change over the next ten years.. they aren't going to be putting in middle relievers and they aren't suddenly going to let an abundant of closers in so they will find themselves rethinking the unwritten stats used for pitchers
Posted on 1/7/17 at 5:21 pm to jamal
He lost his stuff. He didnt get figured out. Lost alot velocity and control. Thats what separates the elite from AAA. Fine line
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