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Posted on 5/8/14 at 1:35 pm to Zamoro10
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Seattle is 37 low/50 high for early Feb on average. With only November/December/January having more precipitation than Feb. People would complain who aren't used to that much rain. Cold and rainy doesn't suit most people - no matter how awesome the city is.
Most people in America don't live in the south-eastern climate. A lot of people don't care about 37-50 with precipitation.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 1:36 pm to VOLhalla
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You think people won't travel and have a great time in colder cities like Denver, Seattle or even Minneapolis? Jesus people just buy a coat. Minneapolis has already hosted a Super Bowl and Detroit has twice. It's going to be happening more in the future and it's good for the NFL
Here's a quote from Goodell:
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Goodell said Friday that the Super Bowl needs to "get to as many communities as possible, and give them the opportunity to share not only in the emotional benefits, but the economic benefits."
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Goodell can say anything he wants. The matter of the fact is that it's the owners that vote on the location. They have certain cities they enjoy returning to over and over again for one reason or another. New Orleans, Miami and Tampa are all on that list. Sure other cities will get a chance here and there, but there will still be a group of cities that host regularly.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 1:38 pm to VOLhalla
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Most people in America don't live in the south-eastern climate. A lot of people don't care about 37-50 with precipitation.
Living in that climate is very different than spending a shite-ton of money to travel to it for an expensive vacation.
Also, anyone who thinks New Orleans is such a terrible host city is delusional. A mid-market city doesn't get tons of major sporting events unless it's a great host city.
ETA: As for the argument that NYC hosted succesfully so other cold weather cities should too, stop trying to compare NYC to Minneapolis.
This post was edited on 5/8/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 5/8/14 at 1:40 pm to TigerBait1127
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No, you were saying that people would travel to a cold weather city BC they traveled to NYC. That's a big difference
So you think that people will travel to and attend the Super Bowl despite the weather but wouldn't go to say Denver because of the combination of weather and Denver not being as awesome as New York?
I guess we will find out because it's likely to happen
Posted on 5/8/14 at 1:43 pm to Patron Saint
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Living in that climate is very different than spending a shite-ton of money to travel to it for an expensive vacation. Also, anyone who thinks New Orleans is such a terrible host city is delusional. A mid-market city doesn't get tons of major sporting events unless it's a great host city. ETA: As for the argument that NYC hosted succesfully so other cold weather cities should too, stop trying to compare NYC to Minneapolis.
1. I never said New Orleans is terrible. I said it won't be hosting as many Super Bowls.
2. Minneapolis hosted the Super Bowl in 1992. Attendance was 63,130
Posted on 5/8/14 at 1:44 pm to VOLhalla
That depends on what kind of people you are talking about. Would I spend 10k on a trip for two to watch the saints play in the superbowl in miami? YES...Would I pay 10k on a trip to watch the saints play in the super bowl in Minneapolis? Actually no, because to me that wouldn't be enjoyable. I'd save my money for something else.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 1:45 pm to VOLhalla
It's not like the Super Bowl will ever not be a sellout, but hosting in the biggest media market in the world does a lot more to cancel out the negatives of the weather than hosting the Super Bowl in Denver. Not to mention, NYC is already a city that people vacation to all the time. I'm not sure if the same can be said for Denver. People go to Colorado to ski, but I don't think people go to Colorado to hang out in Denver.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 1:46 pm to VOLhalla
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2. Minneapolis hosted the Super Bowl in 1992. Attendance was 63,130
I think you need to realize there is more to the Super Bowl than the actual game attendance. The Super Bowl would sell out even if it was held in Nigeria.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 1:52 pm to Patron Saint
The NFL cares about ticket sales and tv revenue. It doesn't care if you had a great time at the beach.
Enough people will go to the Super Bowl to sell out wherever it is and tv viewership may even be higher if the teams played in bad conditions. People like novelty. Face it, the NFL is moving more towards spreading the Super Bowl out all over America and that's a good thing
ETA: you should go to Denver and just hang out in the city. Fantastic food and possibly the best craft beer in America.
Enough people will go to the Super Bowl to sell out wherever it is and tv viewership may even be higher if the teams played in bad conditions. People like novelty. Face it, the NFL is moving more towards spreading the Super Bowl out all over America and that's a good thing
ETA: you should go to Denver and just hang out in the city. Fantastic food and possibly the best craft beer in America.
This post was edited on 5/8/14 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 5/8/14 at 1:54 pm to VOLhalla
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It doesn't care if you had a great time at the beach.
100% false
Posted on 5/8/14 at 1:56 pm to Geauxld Finger
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That depends on what kind of people you are talking about. Would I spend 10k on a trip for two to watch the saints play in the superbowl in miami? YES...Would I pay 10k on a trip to watch the saints play in the super bowl in Minneapolis? Actually no, because to me that wouldn't be enjoyable. I'd save my money for something else
But plenty of people would. That's why Minneapolis, Detroit, Indianapolis, and New York have all hosted
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:03 pm to VOLhalla
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Detroit
They hosted as part of their stadium deal. It was guaranteed to them. The NFL didn't want to have it there because absolutely no one wants to vacation in Detroit. Same with Indy for the most part. They use that as bargaining chips so cities cough up funding for new stadiums.
Stop comparing NY to other cities. It is not the same. Its one of the largest cities in the world, and is a travel destination for millions of people a year. That is not a valid argument.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:03 pm to VOLhalla
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The NFL cares about ticket sales
They will sell tickets no matter where it is.
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tv revenue
They will make just as much money off of advertisements during the game no matter where it's played.
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It doesn't care if you had a great time at the beach.
They definitely care if you had a great time in the Super Bowl host city. That's marketing. They want people to associate nothing but good feelings with their entire Super Bowl experience, which is much more than the game. If you've ever been in a Super Bowl host city, you would know that the NFL takes over and anything you do in that city that week will have some reference to the NFL and the Super Bowl whether it's an official NFL event or not, so they want you to have a good time.
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Face it, the NFL is moving more towards spreading the Super Bowl out all over America and that's a good thing
That's great. The 2018 Super Bowl will be in New Orleans, and you saying the NFL won't have the Super Bowl in New Orleans for a long time is what started this whole argument. After that, the Super Bowl will likely continue to be played in N.O. at least once every ten years.
This post was edited on 5/8/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:06 pm to VOLhalla
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VOLhalla
Have you ever actually experienced the Super Bowl? I'm not saying go to a game, but be in a city when they hosted it? If you could see the amount of people that just come to the city for the fun (if its a fun place) its unreal. NOLA had thousands of people that came in that weren't even attending the game. I can safely say that probably 50% of those folks would not travel to Minnesota in winter for that.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:06 pm to Patron Saint
New Orleans is a terrible host city for any type of event.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:07 pm to TigerWise
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New Orleans is a terrible host city for any type of event
Oh you!
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:08 pm to TigerWise
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New Orleans is a terrible host city for any type of event.
Pretty sure you're kidding. If not, see above.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:09 pm to Geauxld Finger
So your argument for the NFL having the Super Bowl in Minneapolis, Indianapolis, and Detroit (twice mind you) is that they were forced to do so? Please provide some links. And I'm including New York with the others above because they're all cold-weather cities that have hosted successful Super Bowls.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 2:14 pm to Geauxld Finger
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Have you ever actually experienced the Super Bowl? I'm not saying go to a game, but be in a city when they hosted it? If you could see the amount of people that just come to the city for the fun (if its a fun place) its unreal. NOLA had thousands of people that came in that weren't even attending the game. I can safely say that probably 50% of those folks would not travel to Minnesota in winter for that.
If you're so confident that 50% fewer people will go to a cold weather city for the Super Bowl why don't you start googling and come up with actual numbers.
I realize that most people here are afraid of snow but this idea that people can't have fun in cold-weather locations is absurd. You realize in Seattle or Denver you could go skiing and party at ski lodges preceding the Super Bowl? All the cities mentioned have awesome bars and restaurants too. A Super Bowl in any city mentioned in this thread would be an awesome time
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