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What is a "realistic" goal for a child's 529 contribution?

Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:12 pm
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:12 pm
I understand that in a perfect world your child's college is paid for completely

what are most of you doing with this? should 100-200 a month be reasonable if you plan on doing it from birth to 18yrs old?
Posted by Teauxler
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:17 pm to
Great question. I've always felt if I were able to help my kids with college than I will. Fortunately we have 529 accounts for all 3 of ours. My dilemma is how much should I put in there.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:21 pm to
I know most may say:

"take care of your retirement first ,then do what you can"

we can just assume college is $10k a year for in state? so i need $40k saved. At 100 a month, for 18 years, that comes out to be $21,600.

child may be working/getting schollies
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 10:45 pm to
After you fully fund every possible retirement account(401K, 457, Roth,SEP, etc), then if you have the funds left 100 or 200 a month seems reasonable.

Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 7:48 am to
quote:

After you fully fund every possible retirement account(401K, 457, Roth,SEP, etc), then if you have the funds left 100 or 200 a month seems reasonable.


I disagree. But I agree you need to fund 15-20% to retirement as a huge priority first, then treat a college fund like an extra chosen expense. I don't think the average person needs to put 18% into retirement and since they are not able to max out to 24% then they can't fund a college plan.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 9:38 am to
$10,000 a year may be high, but mileage may vary depending on where in state you go.

I think you're doing your child a disservice by fully funding college. Help them out, sure, but teach them some values and have them assume some responsibility as well. How much is up to you.
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 11:19 am to
I agree college is important.

However, semester at sea, semester abroad, all sorts of high end housing and food are not the foundation of education.

I've saved about 80K for each kid and transferred my GI bill benfits to them. I also get a stipend from my job for my kids college education.

I'm just convinced that retirement is a certainty.

College can be paid for if the kid and parent both put skin in the game. ROTC, other scholarships, part time job, smart kid can do joint enrollment their last year of high school, AP classes can cover many electives and some required courses, CO-OP opportunities still exist, join the military for a hitch and get GI bill, etc, etc
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 3:59 pm to
10k a year isn't high

Doing it now with Scholarships, Tops, and still costs about 6k yearly out of pocket
Posted by lsufan1971
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 4:28 pm to
I put about $250 a month in my oldest daughters account per month and about $100 per month in my 2 young kids (8&6). I have enough cash in the oldest to pay for almost everything for 3 years of public. I am going to keep contributing while she is on college. I put some bonus money in from time to time.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 4:59 pm to
i need to look, but say you fund the 529 for 18 years and your kid decides not to go to college

what happens with all the money? i assume it can be withdrawn at a taxed penalty?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 5:24 pm to
watch out, while the 529 has liberal rules about what qualifies as educational expenses, what happens if the child doesn't go to college?

Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 6:02 pm to
It has very liberal rules about to whom it can go to.


For instance, it can be shunted to a sibling (or even parent)
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 7/27/16 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

watch out, while the 529 has liberal rules about what qualifies as educational expenses, what happens if the child doesn't go to college?


It can be used for other kinds of education I believe, but most importantly it can be passed on to other siblings and even to their own kids. It is very easy to find a good use for it or let it grow for their own kids.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
4496 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 8:19 am to
quote:

10k a year isn't high

Doing it now with Scholarships, Tops, and still costs about 6k yearly out of pocket

Like I said, it depends on where you go.

McNeese tuition is $2800 per semester. That varies on how many hours one will carry plus books, etc....but no where near $10,000 for 2 semesters.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20895 posts
Posted on 7/28/16 at 8:44 am to
Start in the future and work your way backward- how much is college per year now? Let's say $16k/yr including living expenses. So present value is 4x16=$64k.

How old is your child? Let's assume they aren't born yet. Assume tuition rises at inflation ~1.5%/yr The future value of $64k in 22 (18+4 years of college) is $88.8k.

Assuming your 529 grows at 3%/yr (which might be conservative), you come out to 264 payments of $237/month for 22 years.

Obviously if tuition rises higher than inflation you'll need more.

Maybe someone can check my math here?
This post was edited on 7/28/16 at 8:58 am
Posted by Palmetto08
Member since Sep 2012
4048 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:14 am to
Good thread. I'm constantly reading up on 529 plans, contribution models and future college costs.

Our only child just turned three and we currently have $28,000 in her 529 plan (100% Age Based Aggressive 0-8 yrs)

We put $500/month into it which I know is a lot but I believe the pros outweigh the cons with her plan and we've done a good job contributing to our retirement, emergency fund and money market account

It feels good to have some type of college savings plan
This post was edited on 9/12/16 at 11:15 am
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Assume tuition rises at inflation ~1.5%/yr


Try 6-7% a year. Unless something fundamentally changes in American higher education.
Posted by HamCandy
Team Meat
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:28 pm to
In the same boat, got a 6 week old and my father in law asked me if I wanted to set up a 529 or go the mutual fund route.

My wife didn't have a 529, got a fully paid scholarship to college and we were able to use that money towards a house... Thats my only worry is locking that money into a 529.
Maybe I will try to strike a balance between a 529 and something a little more flexible.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112484 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:01 pm to
My son and his wife told both pairs of grandparents, aunts and uncles... "Our kids are gonna have lots of toys. Too many toys. Instead of buying something for them at Xmas or Birthday please make a contribution to their college account."

The kids are now 8 and 5 and the account has over 60K in it.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

we can just assume college is $10k a year for in state?


If you are talking a small low-level state university, tuition and fees only, 10K a year in 18 years MIGHT be ok.

At LSU currently, in-state cost of attendance including room and board, etc, is 25K a year. In 18 years, I see that easily doubling, if not more, unless some sanity comes to higher ed.

I have a fundamental disagreement with the idea that a parent needs to, or even should, fully fund a college education for a child (granted, it may be because my parents didn't give me a dime towards college).

If you want to help them, I think it's great, but they need to have some skin in the game, either with their own money, loans, or scholarships.

We've created this idea and expectation that all kids NEED to go to a 4 year university, which is beyond stupid. Yes, it should be an option, but college isn't for everyone.

Every month, I put $100 into an account for each of our kids (we have two), the accounts are a low-cost index fund. At this point, the accounts are in my wife and I's names, not our kids. The small amount of investment income taxes we pay on this is more than offset by the control of me being flexible with how I give them the money later on.
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