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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:43 am
Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:43 am
I am in the market for a 2 or 3 year old silverado, f150, tahoe, or 4runner. I was wondering the money talks thoughts on purchasing used at the best possible price.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:58 am to
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I am in the market for a 2 or 3 year old silverado, f150, tahoe, or 4runner. I was wondering the money talks thoughts on purchasing used at the best possible price.


You're not going to be particularly happy with the prices of late models of the vehicles you're looking at. You'll probably do better buying new after factoring in available incentives and lower interest rates, not to mention better warranty coverage and knowing the maintenance history. Just my two cents.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:10 am to
I've noticed you are a big advocate of purchasing new vs used late model vehicles. But even though new vehicles may be better deals, you will still save thousands of dollars buying used.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:15 am to
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I've noticed you are a big advocate of purchasing new vs used late model vehicles. But even though new vehicles may be better deals, you will still save thousands of dollars buying used.



I don't think the savings are as big as you imply. Less than 10% at best by the time you factor in everything. Some people prefer the peace of mind of new, or the ability to pick the exact options you want and not have to compromise what you want due to availability.

ETA: Then, when you factor in the additional value of the newer model, it's basically a wash.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 9:20 am
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:16 am to
It really depends on the situation. When I was shopping for my Jeep, it didn't make much sense to purchase a used late model Jeep because they were selling for only a couple thousand less than brand new (with incentives).
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:39 am to
We will soon be looking for a car and we are looking at a Camary / Accord or maybe a CR-V.

Trying to decide between buying new, and buying used with 3 yrs / 50K miles on it.
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:47 am to
if your looking from 1 to 3 year old truck may as well buy used. i have 2017 models that I'm already discounting $12,000 off the sticker.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:59 am to
You mean buy new?

Not looking for a truck. In the larger family car / smaller SUV / Crossover segment, what do you think the savings between new after discounts and 1-3 year old used is? Is it worth it?

I haven't bought a vehicle since 2009, and when I did, the grand caravan I bought one year old was almost 10,000 less than a discounted new one.
Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
Member since Mar 2013
1315 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:00 am to
trimmed out the trucks I like are like 60k. Similarly trimmed 2014's are in the 28k range. Clue me in on what I am missing. I have never purchased a new vehicle and previous vehicles have basically fallen in my lap.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:01 am to
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I haven't bought a vehicle since 2009, and when I did, the grand caravan I bought one year old was almost 10,000 less than a discounted new one.




That's not going to happen on a Camry/Accord. You can get new ones for around $4k-$5k off sticker all day for the higher trims.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:03 am to
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trimmed out the trucks I like are like 60k. Similarly trimmed 2014's are in the 28k range.


Show me the low mileage, excellent condition, 2014 LTZ/King Ranch/Denali etc, that are only getting $28k.

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Clue me in on what I am missing.


Yo're not comparing apples to apples most likely.

Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:21 am to
I do only see them occasionally but I have seen 3 or 4 that had under 50k miles in that trim level in that price range. I am a patient person so I am fine taking several months to buy. I have heard that prices are also a little inflated this time of year because of tax return time.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:35 am to
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LNCHBOX
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I don't think the savings are as big as you imply. Less than 10% at best by the time you factor in everything. Some people prefer the peace of mind of new, or the ability to pick the exact options you want and not have to compromise what you want due to availability.

ETA: Then, when you factor in the additional value of the newer model, it's basically a wash.


I've been looking at a full-sized used truck off-and-on for well over a year. My current ride is a 2000 Toyota 4Runner SUV. It's got 241,000 miles on it at present.

I've been on AutoTrader looking-like I said-for well over 12 months. I'm the type whose going to drive the wheels off a truck (as evidenced by the fact I'm still driving a 17 year old truck with well north of 200K), but I'm also the type that's looking constantly at what's out there for what price, etc. It's just part of owning and driving high mileage vehicles that you may need to be on the lookout for one at a moment's notice I guess. LOL.

The prices I have seen for 2012-2013 Ford's & Toyota's are significantly discounted from New Models. I can take screen caps and update this thread, but there's no implication. I can search thousands of listings and there's a consistent, significant discount in the range the OP is looking for.

Beyond that, OP is looking for a used automobile. You're saying that there's a want/wish factor for ordering just the right types of finish, trim and features that make new/used a wash. If you're buying used to begin with you're already accepting the fact that you can't make to order or go ala carte when looking for the right vehicle. So I don't see how that's some mitigating factor between new and used.

Again though, I'd be happy to take some screen caps later this evening to show you. The cost of a new vehicle-even base models-is a vast increase compared to the cost of a 3-5 year old vehicle.

Vast.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 10:36 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:42 am to
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The prices I have seen for 2012-2013 Ford's & Toyota's are significantly discounted from New Models.


So now we're going with 5 year old vehicles to make the case? Nice. Your screen caps aren't necessary.



quote:

he cost of a new vehicle-even base models-is a vast increase compared to the cost of a 3-5 year old vehicle.

Vast.


OP was talking 2-3 years, you're moving the goal posts. Comparing previous generations of vehicles, which is what you're doing, is pointless.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 10:42 am
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:46 am to
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The cost of a new vehicle-even base models-is a vast increase compared to the cost of a 3-5 year old vehicle.


You just shifted what the OP was looking for into a different realm. Difference between a 2-3 year old vehicle and a 5 year old is big in my opinion.

I agree, that purchasing used will lead to better deals. I think LNCHBOX is just stating that sometimes the savings is overestimated. As someone pointed out though, if you shop your arse off, you can find something. I bought my Tahoe used when I stumbled across one. Vehicle I bought this weekend was new since we wanted significantly low miles, and anything under 10k miles was listed only a few thousand below new MSRP.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:58 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:01 am to
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New 2016 King Ranch at a volume dealer

Used 2014 w/ 25K miles



Not a fair comparison at all considering the ridiculous amount for additional features the new one has that you couldn't get on the old one. And you also picked the most expensive MSRP you can get for a new King Ranch. That truck has almost $13k of extras.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:09 am to
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I think LNCHBOX is just stating that sometimes the savings is overestimated.

its probably very specific to models and location. The best thing to do is to look and do the math yourself. Its not fricking rocket science to price shop.
Posted by LSUengineer12
The Best Side
Member since Dec 2011
1850 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:25 am to
As a Ford owner, I wouldn't touch an Ecoboost again..
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:27 am to
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LNCHBOX
quote:

So now we're going with 5 year old vehicles to make the case? Nice. Your screen caps aren't necessary.


Cool.

quote:

OP was talking 2-3 years, you're moving the goal posts. Comparing previous generations of vehicles, which is what you're doing, is pointless.




I'm not moving anything. I'm just saying that savings are to be found within the timeframe that I'm looking for. If that doesn't fit the OP, then my apologies. But new trucks with specific trims/finish/color packages you're talking about that help make things a wash from a price perspective are pushing new truck MSRP's sky high these days.

I also admit that I'm not the new automobile type. My wife will always have one, but won't get a new one until we pay it off (that's our compromise) and utilize it as a trade in to hopefully put us into a progressively better term/payment situation.

I will never see the value in a new truck or car unless someone has a vehicle allowance that mitigates the financial investment necessary.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 11:28 am
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