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Should I pay off my student loans as quickly as possible?
Posted on 6/9/15 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 6/9/15 at 1:44 pm
I'm sorry if this has been discussed, but I looked over the list of major topics covered and the closest thing I could find was this, which turned into an auto discussion. Maybe this thread can be added to the sticky.
Anyway, there seems to be conflicting info on whether or not student loans should be paid off as quickly as possible. Obviously debt is uncomfortable, but then there are quotes like this...
I won't go too deeply into my specific financial situation so things can stay general. Let's assume I have 35K in loans at 6.8% (fixed). I am contributing to a 401K that's performing above 6.8%, enough to get the max the company will match. My vehicle and credit cards are paid off (no other current debt, besides the student loans). I rent my home.
It's realistically possible for me to pay off the entire student debt in two years or less, if I don't finance anything (a home?). The missing piece to this puzzle, is that I'm brand new to investing and wouldn't even know where to look to get above 6.8% on my savings.
It boils down to the question, should this student loan debt be treated as a house fire that must be put out, or are there better options for the money while it's slowly chipped away at?
Anyway, there seems to be conflicting info on whether or not student loans should be paid off as quickly as possible. Obviously debt is uncomfortable, but then there are quotes like this...
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Max your Roth in Vangaurd index funds starting right now. As tempting as it is to pay off those loans early, you can never get back the years of missed Roth contributions.
I won't go too deeply into my specific financial situation so things can stay general. Let's assume I have 35K in loans at 6.8% (fixed). I am contributing to a 401K that's performing above 6.8%, enough to get the max the company will match. My vehicle and credit cards are paid off (no other current debt, besides the student loans). I rent my home.
It's realistically possible for me to pay off the entire student debt in two years or less, if I don't finance anything (a home?). The missing piece to this puzzle, is that I'm brand new to investing and wouldn't even know where to look to get above 6.8% on my savings.
It boils down to the question, should this student loan debt be treated as a house fire that must be put out, or are there better options for the money while it's slowly chipped away at?
Posted on 6/9/15 at 1:46 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Slow
But that's just me
But that's just me
Posted on 6/9/15 at 1:57 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Refinance your loans through Sofi and get a lower interest rate. Mine went from 6.8 to 4.18
I'm a fan of investing the money, although I do pay a little extra towards my loans.
Over the long term you will make more though the average index fund than you will lose to student loan interest
I'm a fan of investing the money, although I do pay a little extra towards my loans.
Over the long term you will make more though the average index fund than you will lose to student loan interest
Posted on 6/9/15 at 2:02 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
I think 6-8% debt is kind of the range where it becomes a tough decision. Anything less and it makes sense to invest the money, especially with student loan interest being deductible. Anything higher than 8% and it's probably a no brainer to just pay it off.
Personally, 6.8% is high enough for me to want to prioritize it over additional retirement savings. I would certainly still prioritize the free 401k match, but I'd probably route everything else towards the loans. That's just my opinion. I wouldn't call anyone stupid for slowing down those payments though and maxing out the Roth while you can. You'll never get those years back on the Roth.
The only other thing that I would consider is emergency fund or other cash. There are conflicting opinions on this, but if you don't have a good emergency fund, then maybe putting your money in a Roth over the loans is the best route. Once you pay the loan, that money is gone. If it's sitting in a Roth, you can always get your contributions back. Just something to think about.
Personally, 6.8% is high enough for me to want to prioritize it over additional retirement savings. I would certainly still prioritize the free 401k match, but I'd probably route everything else towards the loans. That's just my opinion. I wouldn't call anyone stupid for slowing down those payments though and maxing out the Roth while you can. You'll never get those years back on the Roth.
The only other thing that I would consider is emergency fund or other cash. There are conflicting opinions on this, but if you don't have a good emergency fund, then maybe putting your money in a Roth over the loans is the best route. Once you pay the loan, that money is gone. If it's sitting in a Roth, you can always get your contributions back. Just something to think about.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 2:43 pm to kennypowers816
Thanks guys, the responses have been helpful. My initial suspicion was this;
So it's good to know that's not wildly off base and I'm not making a huge mistake either way.
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I think 6-8% debt is kind of the range where it becomes a tough decision.
So it's good to know that's not wildly off base and I'm not making a huge mistake either way.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 2:48 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
First step is to refi, then evaluate. 6.8% is way to high.
Refi on Sofi and I can send you a referral code
I'm paying off mine aggressively because my payments are cutting into my fun money as my savings has remained unchanged. Should kill them with this years bonus in the fall.
Refi on Sofi and I can send you a referral code
I'm paying off mine aggressively because my payments are cutting into my fun money as my savings has remained unchanged. Should kill them with this years bonus in the fall.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 2:57 pm to barry
I posted my referral code first
Posted on 6/9/15 at 2:57 pm to barry
I was going to start digging into that after the other poster suggested it. I assume I can keep the tax deduction with a refi, or is that the catch?
Posted on 6/9/15 at 2:58 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
yeah you can still keep the deduction.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 2:59 pm to Delacroix
Tight, definitely sounds like step one.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 4:39 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Refinance loans if you can to lower interest rate.
However, student loans are some of the most forgiving loans there are. Tax deductible, tons of possible forgiveness scenarios, etc. it's very low on the debt priority.
With that said, it appears you do not have much debt. Good for you. I'd prioritize your retirement contributions first, 401k and Roth while eligible, and also a comfortable emergency fund. After that, any additional funds could be directed towards the student loans.
However, student loans are some of the most forgiving loans there are. Tax deductible, tons of possible forgiveness scenarios, etc. it's very low on the debt priority.
With that said, it appears you do not have much debt. Good for you. I'd prioritize your retirement contributions first, 401k and Roth while eligible, and also a comfortable emergency fund. After that, any additional funds could be directed towards the student loans.
Posted on 6/9/15 at 6:03 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Just completed a similar situation as you...my wife had $20K remaining on her student loans as of last week with a 6.8% interest. We were paying $2,000/month to try to knock them out up to that point. We sold our old house and wrote a $20K check to be done with the loans. Typically, I would say invest, but my line is drawn at the 6% mark. Anything over that (which these student loans fell into), I'd rather pay off than invest that money in the market. Additionally, this was the only debt that we had hanging over us other than a home mortgage on the new house. It is very nice that now I can be full steam ahead in our leisure spending and investment picking knowing we have zero debt.
This post was edited on 6/9/15 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:17 pm to Delacroix
Anyone else have a referral code haha? I need to check out sofi.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 7:28 am to Saint5446
Posted on 6/10/15 at 7:29 am to TheDrunkenTigah
My wife had loans with interest rates up to 7.6% at one point. We've paid off the highest interest rates except for one at 5.6% which we will eventually knock out. I am with some others in this thread, where my level of comfort sinks when the interest rates hover between 5% and 8%. Once the 5.6% is gone, I am not going to be rushing to pay off her loans with rates of less than 5%.
If you can refinance and still get the benefits of a student loan, by all means go for it. Considering this has you troubled as it stands, set up auto-drafts so that you are contributing 15% of your salary into retirement (Roth IRA + 401k), and then focus the rest towards bills and loans. Making it a goal to contribute and max out your Roth IRA and 401k is a great goal, but it will encroach on other plans that you might have.
One other point of consideration regarding the Roth IRA, you have approximately 16 months to make a year's worth of contributions. So 2015's contributions can be applied anywhere between 1/1/2015 - 4/15/2016. One payment of $343.75 at the 1st of the month can set you on a path to max out your 2015 contributions and allow you to stretch out your payments through the whole payment window.
If you can refinance and still get the benefits of a student loan, by all means go for it. Considering this has you troubled as it stands, set up auto-drafts so that you are contributing 15% of your salary into retirement (Roth IRA + 401k), and then focus the rest towards bills and loans. Making it a goal to contribute and max out your Roth IRA and 401k is a great goal, but it will encroach on other plans that you might have.
One other point of consideration regarding the Roth IRA, you have approximately 16 months to make a year's worth of contributions. So 2015's contributions can be applied anywhere between 1/1/2015 - 4/15/2016. One payment of $343.75 at the 1st of the month can set you on a path to max out your 2015 contributions and allow you to stretch out your payments through the whole payment window.
Posted on 6/10/15 at 7:41 am to RickAstley
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RickAstley
"never gonna pay you off, never gonna refi you......never gonna pay, never gonna pay"
Posted on 6/10/15 at 7:55 am to Delacroix
Not to hijack, but I just logged my info into SoFi and it says it was unable to refi my student loans at this time due to either work experience or credit score. I've been with my Company for four years and my credit score is "Excellent" around 785-790. Can your credit be too good to do this refi? Who else should I talk to?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 8:50 am to TigerSaint1
Maybe try contacting customer service? They are usually pretty quick to respond.
I know they are pretty strict to get the refi, but that credit score should definitely be good enough.
I know they are pretty strict to get the refi, but that credit score should definitely be good enough.
This post was edited on 6/10/15 at 8:52 am
Posted on 6/10/15 at 8:50 am to TigerSaint1
What kind of credit score is Sofi looking for?
Posted on 6/10/15 at 9:01 am to STLhog
Man, not sure. I didn't think you could have "too good" of a credit score unless it was a program to help people with not so great credit.
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