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Received an inheritance now how to plan for future retirement?

Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:04 am
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:04 am
I came into an inheritance recently and while not enough to retire at 34 it is enough to make my future working life easier. I have zero experience with investing and do not want to risk the money I have. My line of thinking is to keep that money secure (savings/cd's) and open a retirement account and only invest the money put in there from my pay check. Currently do not have any work provided 401k or other retirement accounts. First order of business will be to pay off my home mortgage and auto loan. Will be debt free after that and have about $2k/month in extra disposable income. Looking for some suggestions...
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:06 am to
I think you're going about it backwards
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:29 am to
1)what is your mortgage interest rate? if it is low (sub 4%), then don't necessarily use your cash to pay it off now. You can potentially earn more w/the liquid cash than the loan is costing you...as mortgage interest is deductible. If the loan IS higher interest, consider using a little of the cash to get into a lower interest loan. Rates are still very low. Use someone else's cheap money and keep your cash for investing. Go to bankrate.com and look at the mortgage calculators: put in all of your current variables (loan balance, rate, etc) and look at the detailed amortization schedule. It will show you exactly how much interest you are paying over time. Re-run the calculator using today's mortgage rates and compare the two. You can see how much you'd save in interest with a re-fi and how much the loan is costing you. It might not be as much as you think.

2)ditto for the car loan. Look at the interest rate...if it is .9% or other ridiculously low rate, then keep your cash and pay the loan off over time. Is the vehicle worth more than the loan balance? This might be a good time to sell it and get another vehicle financed at a super-low rate. I bought a new car on a .9% rate; it will cost me a couple hundred bucks in interest to pay it off over 36 months. I'd much rather have that chunk of cash in my pocket, working for me, and spend the lousy few hundy in interest rather than paying off the car.

3)start an individual retirement account. Since you have NO retirement funds, I'd start with a traditional IRA. The traditional IRA is deductible on your income taxes (up to $5,500 depending on your adjusted gross income). The IRA contribution deduction can be claimed whether or not you itemize. Right now, you can still make an IRA contribution for 2014 (up until April 15). So right now, you can open an IRA and fund it with up to $5,500 for 2014 and $5,500 for '15. In one fell swoop, you can dump $11,000 into retirement. You may be able to put more away, depending on your employment status (since you're not covered by an employer plan) and income.

Pick a low-cost provider, put everything into a life-cycle portfolio (this is a mix of funds selected for your age). Or, if that's still too much risk, go for an index fund. You've got years to let it ride, so don't be too conservative. CD rates are worse than awful right now...given that you're not going to need the retirement money any time soon, I'd accept a little risk.

4)start an emergency cash reserve of 6-12 months living expenses. stick it in an online only bank account so you aren't tempted to chip away at it. you won't make much money on it, but that's not the point. it is your ready cash cushion.

If you still have a pile of cash left over, go back to #1. It MIGHT be a good idea to pay off the car or house after you've fully funded retirement for this year & last and piled up a cash reserve.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24954 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:12 am to
Emergency fund wasn't a problem before as i already had enough to pay living expenses for a few years.

Mortgage is 4% fixed with about 12-15 years left but i do not pay enough in interest to itemize anymore as my payments have finally flip flopped to slightly more in principle than interest every month.

Auto is about 3.6% i believe.

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37084 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:16 am to
I would recommend finding a good financial planner and meeting with them. The person you received this inheritance from, I'm guessing they were pretty wealthy, were they working with an advisor?

Am I correct in assuming that the $2K/month is your current debt service?

I would feel uncomfortable giving you any more advice without sitting down with you and doing an analysis of your goals and risk tolerance. This is a once in a lifetime event so you want to get it right.
Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
3921 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:17 am to
i agree that you shouldn't necessarily pay off your house. while living "debt free" may free up cash flow, it isn't always the best long term decision (for the reasons discussed by previous poster). same goes for car note. i'd put as much of that money as you can into tax advantaged accounts retirement accounts. if your work offers a 401k and you just haven't taken advantage, bump up your contributions so that you max it out. use the extra cash to live on. after you've funded your ira's for last year and this year (and bumped up 401k if available), I would start looking for other ways to invest your money. Think about what you are knowledgeable at. For instance, if you have an understanding of real estate, you would have the cash to get into some investment properties.

i also agree that if your mortgage rate is higher (anything over 4% right now), you should look into refinancing.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24954 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:23 am to
quote:

Am I correct in assuming that the $2K/month is your current debt service?


Correct that is roughly what the current home and auto note run. At the moment our company does not offer any type of retirement. The way i was looking at it the money isn't making 4% sitting there so paying off the house and paying myself back is attractive.
Posted by Maderan
Member since Feb 2005
807 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:45 am to
You really should look into a financial advisor. They will help you look long term.

At 34 you need to invest to make that money last your life time. Letting it sit and earn cd rates is a big mistake. Your time horizon for the money is so long that you should have some risk based assets in your portfolio. I find that most investors do not understand risk well enough to define what their risk tolerance is.

Find a fee only RIA to help you. I am glad to recommend some if you are interested.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12755 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:51 am to
i was in a similar situation to you a few years ago. at the end of 2011, i received a pretty decent inheritance. first thing i did was meet with a financial advisor. all the advice here is very sound, don't pay off low interest debt. the money can work for you, especially since retirement is so far off, you can withstand and outlast any dips in the market.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37084 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 11:58 am to
You are going to get a variety of opinions on this board, mostly based on the personal experiences of the individual posters.

The thing about personal finance is, what works for one person might not be the best for another person. That's why I recommend you sit down with someone who does this for a living.

You said you had your emergency fund saved up, so that's a great start. I can't imagine it makes any sense to keep all the money in a CD - unless you have some major thing coming up in next few years that will require a lot of money.

So then, do you take the guaranteed return on your money based on paying off the debt (your return is basically the int rate of the debt less an adjustment for any interest you actually get a real tax deduction on) or do you let that ride and save more for retirement now? A lot of that depends on your assumptions of time value of money, growth rates, etc.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:09 pm to
Yeah, no financial planner here, but no need to pay off your house and car is the interest rate on those is lower than what the money could be making in another investment vehicle..

House 4%
index fund 7%

You would profit 3% by not paying house and investing the money instead.

Congrats on your position. You have a great situation out of a tragedy, be sure to get it right and talk to at least 2 professionals and decide whats best for you.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

be sure to get it right and talk to at least 2 professionals and decide whats best for you.

Such good advice. One is not enough....you are admittedly a novice, and you won't have enough experience to differentiate the slick salesman from the legit advisor. So so so many slick salesmen who are willing to sell you things you don't need, or complicated things that are wasting your money.

Also, get a few books on personal finance from the public library and start learning. With money comes a responsibility to understand it.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24954 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

With money comes a responsibility to understand it.


Most definitely. It is amazing how many people start telling you what to do with your money once you have some From family/friends to the bank where you deposited it.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:47 pm to
I know a lot of people who have set themselves up very well by investing all their inheritance money and pretending they didn't have it until retirement.

It is natural to dip into the increased disposable income and expand your budget when you pay off mortgages/auto loans and free up income.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 1:53 pm to
Yep, I had a similar situation. It was a nice chunk and will definitely change my life in the future, but today I can't touch it.

And if you are only receiving advice from family and friends that's good, it was very frustrating when they start asking you to give them $
Posted by player711
Member since Jun 2006
285 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:50 pm to
You need to do some reading first-I recommend:
Common sense of investing
Become your own banker
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4310 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 7:45 am to
Would you go borrow money on your home to invest in the stock market? If your answer is no, pay your house and car off. Not only is it the right thing to do, you will feel better and sleep easier at night....anyone who takes money from the equity in their home to "invest" with is not too smart....


Posted by Chris Farley
Regulating
Member since Sep 2009
4180 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 9:16 am to
Quit peddling the Dave Ramsey BS. This guy is 34 and has NO retirement investments, he needs to speak with a professional and get on course here first and foremost. His interest rates are low enough that he shouldn't be paying them early in the first place. He'd be crippling his retirement income if he used all the cash to off his house.
Posted by Ham Malone
Member since Nov 2010
2510 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 9:19 am to
quote:

Would you go borrow money on your home to invest in the stock market? If your answer is no, pay your house and car off. Not only is it the right thing to do, you will feel better and sleep easier at night....anyone who takes money from the equity in their home to "invest" with is not too smart....


The reasons to invest have been laid out plenty of times in this thread and on this board, and the "right thing to do" is to maximize available funds for retirement. Too many people have the attitude that they've done something wrong by having debt. The only thing wrong about having debt is if you don't have the means to make the scheduled payments.
Posted by austiger
Austin
Member since Apr 2012
744 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 9:19 am to
do a ton of reading on the forums

bogleheads.org

financial advisors are out... DIY is in.
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