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re: Oil & Gas Accountant Salary Question

Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by LSUAfro
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 12:18 pm to
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At the end of the day, most accountants chose the career path for the "ability to have a more enjoyable social/home life" part of the job rather than the earning potential.

FIFY
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 2:33 pm to
I guess im just used to these inflated O&G salaries. Thank god every day I went into engineering and got into the industry.
Posted by 81Tiger
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 2:43 pm to
I would think $75K-$80K.

Do you steal food from the office refrigerator? Do you pitch in $$ for gifts, birthdays, etc?

If you are a decent guy and not a hunchback, it seems $69K is a little low.
Posted by yellowfin
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 2:51 pm to
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5 years B4 puts an accountant near or above the 100k mark


I'd be willing to bet less than 1% of accounting graduates make 100k 5 years from graduating
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:09 pm to
I wouldn't think $69k is that far off without a CPA. Once you get the CPA I would expect you to be closer to $80k.
Posted by Duck
Member since Dec 2006
361 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 4:44 pm to
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I'd be willing to bet less than 1% of accounting graduates make 100k 5 years from graduating


I would be willing to bet that none of that 1% work for the big 4. Not knocking the big four. I did my time, just happy to be done.

and...

quote:

I guess im just used to these inflated O&G salaries. Thank god every day I got into the industry.


FIFY
This post was edited on 6/20/12 at 4:54 pm
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 7:14 pm to
I put in my 5 years at a Big 8 firm. When I left in 1994 I left for a tax director gig that paid me $90,000 plus bonus of at least $20,000 per year. I can't imagine that salaries haven't increased sginificantly in the 18 years that have transpired.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24135 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 7:14 pm to
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Cheap Market
Salary Bonus Total
1 A1 $50,000 $5,000 $55,000
2 A2 (10% raise; 10% bonus) $55,000 $5,500 $60,500
3 SA1 (20% raise; 5% bonus) $66,000 $3,300 $69,300
4 SA2 (12% raise; 10% bonus) $73,920 $7,392 $81,312
5 SA3 (12% raise; 10% bonus) $82,790 $8,279 $91,069
6 M1 (25% raise; 10% bonus) $103,488 $10,349 $113,837

Expensive Market
Salary Bonus Total
1 A1 $56,000 $5,600 $61,600
2 A2 (10% raise; 10% bonus) $61,600 $6,160 $67,760
3 SA1 (20% raise; 5% bonus) $73,920 $3,696 $77,616
4 SA2 (12% raise; 10% bonus) $82,790 $8,279 $91,069
5 SA3 (12% raise; 10% bonus) $92,725 $9,273 $101,998
6 M1 (25% raise; 10% bonus) $115,907 $11,591 $127,497



Decided to run some very quick best case scenario numbers. It is possible to hit 100k at the start of a 6th year in B4, but it will be very difficult. Unless someone is on the Partner track, then it probably isn't possible on the Audit/Tax side.

I imagine this is more attainable on the consulting side. Salary growth really separates after this point in time though.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24135 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 7:15 pm to
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I put in my 5 years at a Big 8 firm. When I left in 1994 I left for a tax director gig that paid me $90,000 plus bonus of at least $20,000 per year. I can't imagine that salaries haven't increased sginificantly in the 18 years that have transpired.


Sounds like you did very well for yourself on that exit.
Posted by Eyeball
HTX
Member since Oct 2006
396 posts
Posted on 6/20/12 at 7:40 pm to
What do you do now? I'm seriously considering 'getting out'.

Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97618 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 7:41 am to
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What do you do now? I'm seriously considering 'getting out'.


I own my own business, best move I ever made.


It's not accounting related either
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6876 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 10:44 am to
I have my CPA license and currently do work in public accounting (taxes, governmental auditing, etc) what would be the best way to get into an oil and gas accounting position? I've worked for 2 years out of college and have a masters
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97618 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 11:56 am to
the longer you hang out in public the better industry job you can get, I'd give it a couple more years

get out of governmental, get assigned to oil & gas, manufacturing, oil & gas service companies...govt auditing only looks good if you want to work for the government

what size firm do you work for? big companies like big firm experience... any SEC?

and lastly....move to houston
Posted by raw dog
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
483 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 12:02 pm to
Apply to 50 O&G companies in Houston, get a job, perform well and hang in there, profit.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 12:35 pm to
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I'd give it a couple more years
I'd try to get to at least the 3 year mark.
quote:

get out of governmental

And don't look back
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big companies like big firm experience... any SEC

GAAP application and SEC knowledge will be a common theme in interviews. Tack on specific O&G audit experience. You're in.
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and lastly....move to houston
BR>Houston
Posted by barry
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Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:01 pm to
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BR>Houston


Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Member since Aug 2010
6876 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:48 pm to
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what size firm do you work for? big companies like big firm experience... any SEC?
very small, we do all the local governmental entities in our small town (city hall, DA, sheriff, clerk of court, etc.) it's just me and another CPA (my boss)
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:49 pm to
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what would be the best way to get into an oil and gas accounting position?


In my case, I just lucked out. Got an interview through a staffing company and was hired. Learned a lot in the last year. Liquid accounting is a little different and there are lots of variables involved in it.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97618 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:09 pm to
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very small, we do all the local governmental entities in our small town (city hall, DA, sheriff, clerk of court, etc.) it's just me and another CPA (my boss)


you need to get out of there asap, find a larger firm...especially if you plan to make the jump to industry
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6876 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:26 pm to
yea I know, I'm hanging around now because if I want to stay in the town (where I grew up) I could buy his practice when he retires as its very large for a single individual
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