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re: BOIL has become predictable

Posted on 8/4/14 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 3:11 pm to
I went long today. $4.50/$5.00 call spreads for both Dec and Jan.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 8:10 am to
Hmm, how much on target have those guys been in the past?

Force what's your opinion on that? A low 80 injection that is? Do you expect more?
Posted by TheBigHurt
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 10:36 am to
Very interesting... It will definitely be a gamble on Thursday. Trying to decide when I should flip to go long... Was hoping to see DGAZ around $5 before doing so.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:00 am to
I think we'll see a bounce or two with some late summer heat and a more NG heavy power burn, with prices dropping to last week's levels or lower in the shoulder months as supply concerns ease. If I see that happen I'm going to pounce on winter calls then.

If it were me, I wouldn't be in DGAZ trying to wait out a top at this point of the year. Even if NG trades relatively flat into early winter, the leveraged funds will continue decaying.
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Iowa Golfer
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:52 pm to
I wouldn't try to time the bottom either. Again, I went long already. Options on futures. I will try to time the bottom if I jump in on a long UNG play.
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:28 am to
I need the Force to be with me. Need some reassurance here that we have one more run to go.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 11:54 am to
Im in it.......we have one more.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 11:55 am
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by TheBigHurt
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
2378 posts
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:04 pm to
I'm in it too for one last push...
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 6:47 am to
Something has to give today. Cash has been slowly creeping up. Unnoticed it seems. Cash and September delivery are disconnected .105 currently, and the futures are trading up in anticipation of this morning's report.

I vaguely remember one surprise on the EIA report. It sure seems the market has "guessed"* correctly the majority of these injection reports.

* aka leaked by government scum bag employee
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 6:48 am
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:32 am to
Leakage again. Here We Go Natty Gas, Here We Go.
Posted by TheBigHurt
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
2378 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 12:09 pm to
Is 82 legit? I know there has been more industrial demand but last week cool temps across the country should have stockpiled a good bit of Nat gas.. Force, do you for see $5 DGAZ this season?
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:59 pm to
Must've been by looking at the reaction. Fooled me, I thought we were in for a continued plunge.
Posted by TheBigHurt
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 10:57 am to
Force, you still seeing any push for staying short? Thanks for your input brotha!
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 7:08 pm to
Cash trades lower towards the end of last week, and here we go up on Sunday night in the future's market.

I think we might get one more decent injection report, gas will settle lower for early fall and then it's all about winter weather. There are some issues with increased Canadian production also, but I think this winter sees no less than $4.50 natty gas.

Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 3:36 pm to
Sub 90 injection again this week according to early estimates.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:29 am to
Leakage by gubmit employee again?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Leakage by gubmit employee again?

So do you repeatedly hit your finger with a hammer just so you can tell everyone how much it hurts?
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:52 pm to
Getting crushed tonight. Still. On projections of 85.
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