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Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:15 pm to tigercross
quote:Steph Curry was at a smaller school, he was the only gun on the team. He had a 3 pt line and a shot clock forcing teams to not hold possessions. He didn't approach Pete.
Hard to think a Durant or Curry couldn’t put up similar numbers if they were in Pete’s college situation
Chris Jackson had a shot clock and 3 pt line at LSU, and nobody around him his freshman year. Averaged over 30, had games in the 50's. He remains the best college player I've ever seen live.
Averaged over a dozen less a game than Pete.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:15 pm to SUB
Well all I can say he’s the best an to ever play at LSU
By far
By far
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:19 pm to LSU82BILL
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And can you imagine what Joe Burrow's stats would be if Jimmy Burrow was the head coach, let Joe throw on every down and never took him out in the 4th quarter?
Can you imagine what Pete’s stats would have been with a shot clock and a 3-pt line AND decent teammates. He went to a final 4. Yes the NIT was a separate Tournament and people declined to go to the NCAA tournament then like Marquette.
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Great players make the people around them better players. Name all the players Pete made better.
Pete also had 425 assist in 3 years you dumbass. Nearly 200 his senior season and scored a whopping 1381 points. Where the hell do people like you hide? Oh wait, you probably think LeBron is better than MJ. Go watch The Last Dance
Do you understand the HYPE that was Pistol Pete? Do you know many NBA players including Chris Paul admitted to watching his ball handling videos?
Joe didn’t call the defense. Pretty sure y’all saw one drafted in the first round AND BEEN saying on here how Stingley would be a top 10 pick THIS YEAR MAYBE EVEN TOP 5. Especially after all those all American first round picks said “he was the best db they faced all season. And how Delpit AND Fulton should have gone in the first round.
Of course Joe made the receivers catch better and run better routes and the coaches with those drills didn’t have shite to do with it? Like the new goggles and the opening and closing the door drills. He also made Jefferson run that 4.4 and Marshall be able to go get balls?
Again, he was great. Pete was in a different stratosphere to the FREAKING CELEBRITY LEVEL IN COLLEGE!
He was LeBron James hype for you kids but better.
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 11:10 am
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:24 pm to Tigris Christi
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But I think your selling Joe a little short and I wouldn't call fans clueless who want to discuss the possibility of Joe Burrow’s Legendary lore approaching that of the Pistol, at least among the LSU faithful. What Joe did last season was Transcendental! It was as phenomenal and unbelievable as anything I have ever witnessed in sports!
June Jones did a lot of the same with Colt Brennan at Hawaii albeit with lesser talent and lesser opponents.
It was. Great year no doubt. The coaching and scheme had a lot to do with it don’t you think? Look at the Saints for a clue.
Look at Brees completion percentage. He will own the record. He does that with less receiving talent against better competition.
LSU ran a pro scheme against college players that couldn’t match the talent level of this offense with a senior Oline, experiences receiver, TE, RB that fit that scheme like Sproles did in NOLA. It was remarkable.
Pete was a rock star IN COLLEGE.
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 11:11 am
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:45 pm to Scoob
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Steph Curry was at a smaller school, he was the only gun on the team. He had a 3 pt line and a shot clock forcing teams to not hold possessions. He didn't approach Pete.
And despite being the only gun at a smaller school, he took his team to the elite 8. Maybe because his team’s goal was winning and not simply accumulating points for one guy.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:23 pm to rbdallas
The talent evaluators in the NFL had Burrow rated as the best player in college. NBA evaluators had Maravich rated as the 3rd best player in the 1970 NBA draft behind Bob Lanier and Rudy Tomjanovich.
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:27 pm to SUB
Joe Burrow is the most successful athlete in LSU history. He is the best player at his position of all time.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 11:17 am to tigercross
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And despite being the only gun at a smaller school, he took his team to the elite 8. Maybe because his team’s goal was winning and not simply accumulating points for one guy.
And Pete took his team to a final four of a tournament that was competing with the NCAA for teams. The rules were not the same then as they are now. Teams like a highly ranked Marquette team turned down the NCAA to go to the NIT.
At one point there NIT was BIGGER than the NCAA.
Again, y’all only think TODAY. I lived the 60’s and 70’s and can tell you that things were very different in our culture and what people thought about our government, race, etc.
Pete had 4 other white guys because LSU wasn’t integrated for sports assholes.
He had 1381 points and 192 assists his senior year. WITHOUT A SHOT CLOCK OR THREE POINT LINE. 192. frickING STAY IN YOUR LITTLE PARTICIPATION TROPHY arse LANE KID!!!
Posted on 5/2/20 at 11:21 am to dailybuck
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The talent evaluators in the NFL had Burrow rated as the best player in college. NBA evaluators had Maravich rated as the 3rd best player in the 1970 NBA draft behind Bob Lanier and Rudy Tomjanovich.
Are either those a Top 50 of all time? NO.
Here is talent for your dumbass and those dumbass people you thought WHEN CENTERS / BIG MEN DOMINATED THE LEAGUE YOU frickING MORON.
Maravich ended up receiving the richest contract ever offered a college player at the time to sign with the Atlanta Hawks
So fricking stupid...
Posted on 5/2/20 at 11:56 am to SUB
I think Pistol, Burrow both deserve a statue along with Cannon. The greatest scorer of all time, and 2 Heisman winners. Pretty remarkable feats. If Orgeron wins another Natty, he would deserve one as well.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:01 pm to Tiger1988
Lanier is in both the college hall of fame and the NBA hall of fame and was an 8 time all star. Tomjanovich was a 5 time NBA all star. Maravich was a 5 time NBA All Star.
Someone up thread mentioned that Maravich was the best player in collegiate basketball history. I would rate both Kareem Jabbar and Bill Walton higher.
Someone up thread mentioned that Maravich was the best player in collegiate basketball history. I would rate both Kareem Jabbar and Bill Walton higher.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:08 pm to SickGainzLP
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Joe Burrow is the most successful athlete in LSU history. He is the best player at his position of all time.
This is true, but Pistol Pete is the only LSU player to fill arenas where LSU fans and opponents came just to see him.
In that era LSU basketball was nothing if not for Pete.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 2:27 pm to SUB
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Let’s say burrow fizzles in the NFL (God forbid). Does his status here change from now?
Absolutely. He would still be remembered similar to Billy Cannon and a step above Matt Flynn and Jamarcus Russel.
If he succeeds in the NFL, he will eclipse Shaq-level celebrity and renown.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 2:48 pm to kingbob
Let's just all be happy they were both Tigers. Burrow had a season that won't soon be matched. As for Pete, no one will eva handle the rock like he could. And his scoring record still stands...half century later. With the 3 point line. Let that simmer...
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:10 pm to Tiger1988
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Burrow won’t reach Cannon status because Billy won more awards. Played for more championships and had a movie made about him.
Billy Cannon is not close to the numbers of awards won by Joe Burrow in college.
In the future there will be a movie about Joe, it is only a matter of time.
You already have a number of youtube fan and professional mini movies on Joe.
Joe Burrow is by far the best QB LSU has ever seen, and I saw them all since Nelson and seen film on all dating to 1936.
Billy is playing in a backfield stacked with talent also, Jimmy Taylor, Johnny Robinson etc.
Of the starting 11 in 1957-8-9 how many were drafted? Football in that era is totally different, just like basketball today is far different form 1969.
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:52 pm to dailybuck
quote:And again for that time they the offenses were built for big men.
Lanier is in both the college hall of fame and the NBA hall of fame and was an 8 time all star. Tomjanovich was a 5 time NBA all star. Maravich was a 5 time NBA All Star.
AgaiN, NEITHER player were NBA All Time Top 50 selections.
Lanier pkayed 14 seasons BtW. I actually was alive and had a family in the 70’s.
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Someone up thread mentioned that Maravich was the best player in collegiate basketball history. I would rate both Kareem Jabbar and Bill Walton higher.
No they weren’t. Walton and Jabbar happen to play for a powerhouse and the single greatest college (and probably all time at any level) coach in the history of basketball. Listen to Bill Walton talk about Pete and you will hear the same thing that others have said, they never saw anything like him before or since. will tell you how great Pete was. He would own the NBA today- I promise you. He was unstoppable until they would beat him up. The game today fits his style to a tee. Black players hated him and everyone wanted to beat him up- athlete was a shite load of dirty play then. No touch fouls for damn sure.
Jabbar was a center and taller than everyone else. Great player but not nearly as good as Wilt. If you would have said Wilt, then probably. Not Jordan either. Not in college.
If you threw up Oscar Robertson, we could then talk. The difference was Oscar was great.
Pete’s stat line his senior year:
1391 points and 192 assists in one season WITHOUT A SHOT CLOCK OR THREE POINT LINE.
LSU was so limited on talent when he got there it wasn’t funny. Still went 20-8 his senior year.
How I judge greatness? They guy with the ball and everybody knows he will have it in his hands and there’s nothing you can do no matter the double or triple teams.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:57 pm to rbdallas
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This is true, but Pistol Pete is the only LSU player to fill arenas where LSU fans and opponents came just to see him.
This is not true, Shaq, Chris and Burrow also brought fans into games.
And these are not the only ones, but Pete is the only LSU player ever carried off court by opposing teams fans.
Pete was carried off the court by the Georgia fans at Georgia his Sr. year. The coach of Georgia had the game film burned, which is a shame, as it could have been Pete's best game of all time. Pete if I remember correct held the ball near 3+ minutes at the end of the game and without looking while walking to the bench with time running out hit a near mid court shot and the rest his history. The Georgia fans went wild.
Stegeman Coliseum March 7 1970 LSU 99-Georgia 88
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 5/2/20 at 8:18 pm to tigger1
tigger1
In the words of Mark Kriegel, author of "Pistol: The Life of Pete Maravich" on the game against Georgia in Athens that you referenced: "In Athens, Georgia, where there really hadn't been too many basketball fans before Pete came to the SEC. At the end of his junior year, last game, he scores 25 of the last 29 points in regulation time to put the game into an overtime period. He is magical in the first overtime. Then the game goes into a second overtime. He is even more magical in the second overtime.
What happens is something that has never happened before. The fans in Athens, Georgia, START BOOING THE HOME TEAM AND CHEERING FOR PETE as the final seconds wind down. And as they count off the seconds, he tosses up a 35-foot hook shot, without really looking at the basket. And of course, it splashes right through the net. And THE GEORGIA FANS CARRY HIM OFF THE COURT. That was Pete Maravich."
In the words of Mark Kriegel, author of "Pistol: The Life of Pete Maravich" on the game against Georgia in Athens that you referenced: "In Athens, Georgia, where there really hadn't been too many basketball fans before Pete came to the SEC. At the end of his junior year, last game, he scores 25 of the last 29 points in regulation time to put the game into an overtime period. He is magical in the first overtime. Then the game goes into a second overtime. He is even more magical in the second overtime.
What happens is something that has never happened before. The fans in Athens, Georgia, START BOOING THE HOME TEAM AND CHEERING FOR PETE as the final seconds wind down. And as they count off the seconds, he tosses up a 35-foot hook shot, without really looking at the basket. And of course, it splashes right through the net. And THE GEORGIA FANS CARRY HIM OFF THE COURT. That was Pete Maravich."
Posted on 5/2/20 at 8:36 pm to rbdallas
Not taking anything away from Pete. Just saying burrow is right there. We have shaq Joe and Pete now.
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