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re: Will Burrow reach Maravich status at LSU?

Posted on 5/1/20 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 1:14 pm to
In terms of importance, Maravich stands in Burrow’s shadow.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Maravich = career
Burrow = one great season


What did Maravich accomplish in his career?
Posted by TigerOG
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 1:35 pm to
So did Jeaux. Never seen before and not expecting it anytime soon.
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
5430 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 1:39 pm to
Hopefully you’re wrong, I love Burrow but I hope we have a lot of Great Superstar Football players in the years to come, definitely a statue coming
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
2943 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 1:53 pm to
Both scored a lot of points but only one has a national title.
Posted by here_I_am
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 2:39 pm to
Bill Maley
Posted by GeologyGrad88
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2015
1027 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 2:43 pm to
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But Maravich never won an NBA title though he had a good pro career.


Pete is in the NBA Hall of Fame. It was better than a good career.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

What did Maravich accomplish in his career?


In terms of individual stats and performance quite a bit. Unparalleled!! But he was here because of his father.

Burrow, on the other hand, put a program on his back and delivered a championship as well as the greatest statistical year in history.
Posted by Eternally Undefeated
Member since Aug 2008
900 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 4:01 pm to
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Burrow = one great season


I think he had one great season but he also had one pretty good season before that one. We can only speculate how that season would have been had the offensive scheme used during the great season been in place. But, I'm guessing he would have ended up with two great seasons.
Posted by EulerRules
Member since Dec 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 4:22 pm to
Eternally Undefeated
Love 'em both. Fortunate to have seen them play in person. Joe was a maestro; Pete was a magician. Joe had MUCH better supporting cast. Joe: Heisman. Pete: USBWA College Player of the Year (1969, 1970). Many pundits said Joe had the greatest college football season ever; ESPNU named Pete "The greatest college basketball player of all time." As others have said, Pete packed every opponents arena to the rafters. And this from Scoob's post above: "But he (Jeaux) produced maybe 4, 5 'OMG did you see that' moments last year; Pete would do that almost every game." That is the difference. But I love Jeaux too.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 4:22 pm
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 4:38 pm to
I actually didn't know that Pete would sell out opponents stadiums and that he was carried off the court by opponents fans. I'd give anything to be able to see him play in person.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 4:47 pm to
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"But he (Jeaux) produced maybe 4, 5 'OMG did you see that' moments last year; Pete would do that almost every game." That is the difference.


Pete did this in an SEC that had only 2 black players his senior year. He's obviously a legendary basketball player (NBA HOF), but he put up his college numbers against inferior competition in a system where he had carte blanche to jack it up for 40 minutes.

Burrow put up legendary numbers against the best competition the NCAA had to offer. Imagine his numbers he he was allowed to keep the hammer down for 60 minutes. 70 TD isn't an unreasonable guess.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20549 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

quote:

Maravich = career
Burrow = one great season



What did Maravich accomplish in his career?

You're right, Maravich, Bo Jackson, guys like that, didn't win a TEAM title, so obviously they weren't shite.

Come on, don't be a dick. What did Maravich accomplish? He's the all-time leading scorer in college basketball, by a HUGE margin. He played 3 varsity seasons, without a 3 pt shot in the game; he has the top 3 scoring seasons in NCAA history.

You pull up a list of NCAA football records for QBs, and Joe Burrow has precisely 1- most TDs in a season. LINK
And you have to take into account that he played 15 games to get that.

If you look at a similar list for NCAA basketball, Maravich has a bunch. Most points per game, per season, per career.

How can you shite on someone universally recognized, who happens to be an LSU alum?
Posted by EulerRules
Member since Dec 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 5:21 pm to
tigercross
The point is what Pete could do with the ball (handling and shooting). To quote John Wooden :“I don’t ever recall seeing a player who could do so much with a basketball." Wooden didn't say anything about LSU playing against "inferior competition". Didn't matter who he played against. John Havlicek called him the greatest ball handler of all time (that includes the NBA). Did you see him put up 68 points against the Knicks? He was guarded by another "Clyde", Walt Frazier, who was on many All-Time NBA Defensive Team compilations.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18955 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 6:01 pm to
Pete is the last white guy to win NBA scoring title...try again.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
4918 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 6:11 pm to
If Maravich didn’t benefit from inferior competition and his collegiate offensive system, how do you explain his production drop in the NBA? How much did his scoring decline (remember the nba games are 20% longer)? What other guys saw such a precipitous decline in scoring? Most stars average more ppg in the NBA than they did in college. Hard to think a Durant or Curry couldn’t put up similar numbers if they were in Pete’s college situation
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18955 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 6:15 pm to
They all knew it was coming...they still couldn't stop it.
Posted by Eyebesmacinhose
Enterprise, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2017
1725 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 6:19 pm to
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Similar, but Pete did things neva seen before. Or since.


And stuff most don’t know about.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18955 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 6:55 pm to
Please explain...
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20549 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

And stuff most don’t know about.
quote:

Please explain...

Most/all the people shitting on Maravich are those who only know him by name, and make comments like "well he was playing against a weak SEC, his stats were inflated".

Stats are only a part of Maravich's play. He did lots of things that don't show up in box scores.

It's like that with Barry Sanders now, to an extent. You run across people who say "well look at his yards per attempt, 5.0 for his career, there are guys who do better than that. He feasted because the Lions relied on him instead of a QB". They don't understand that Sanders made defensive players shite their pants on plays.
Same goes for Maravich, only there's no stats for a lot of the things he did. It might just be listed as an assist, and you don't realize how obscene that pass was.

Maravich's numbers in the NBA dropped because he was trying to distribute more, and he was also getting high as a kite in the early 70's.
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