re: Why ULL/USL/Southwestern Louisiana Institute is annoying....

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Read the thread before commenting people. This has already been addressed.

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I read the thread and im sure he did too. As many have stated the legislature has ruled that there is no flagship in the UL system so despite what you qualify a flagship by there is none. Yet you have yet to show that you accept that.

What bothers me is that ULM doesn't stand up for themselves. As a Monroe resident I haven't seen anyone remotely concerned with it, if I attended ULM I would be raising complaints all the time, Despite as others would say by USL (yes I said USL, if they dont use their real name I will continue calling them USL) referring to themselves as UL, it insinuates that they are a better instituion than ULM. As for the UC berkley/UT Austin argument, be honest if you were hiring someone/ had the oppurtuinty to attend UT arlington or UT or UCirvine or Cal which would you choose? The logical is the flagship-UT or Cal, but the UL system has no flagship but by calling themselves UL they are insinuating it.

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I am not reading five pages on USL.

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Here's a summary of my arguments:

Lots of states in the nation have schools that go by names like: Arizona / Arizona State, so why does it bother LSU so much if another school goes by "Louisiana"?

While not the official flagship school in the system, as pointed out in the thread multiple times, it is the biggest and is well known enough to get by without a city listed as a qualifier.

If ULL goes by "Louisiana" (actually, not if anymore, because their sports teams are officially referred to as "Louisiana" - they have the trademark and all), but anyway, if they go by "Louisiana" it's only in the marketing and promotion of the university. The official name will still be "University of Louisiana at Lafayette" just like Texas is "University of Texas at Austin."

The history of the bickering over this name thing is quite embarrassing. It's like a bunch of 5 year olds arguing over a toy or something. And LSU fans should never ever make fun of "The Ohio State University" again.

Finally, who cares? Do LSU fans really think ULL is gonna surpass LSU in prestige? Hell no, that ain't gonna happen. So why does it bother LSU fans if ULL calls themselves "Louisiana"?

You don't get to make up your own name that the general public refers to you by. The general public decides that and you have to EARN it. Let them beat LSU next year in football and I will call them whatever they want. Until then, they are Southwestern Louisiana Institute at Lafayette (SLI HIGH), or University of Southwestern Louisiana (Univ of Slow Learners), or University of Louisiana at Lafayette (Uh La La), or whatever I decide they deserve.

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ULM should be a CC along with about 5 other 4 year universities in the state.

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those are fightin words. just remember, ULM let tulane play ball in our stadium when yall got run out of town by katrina.

It seems to me that ULL has the problem in that they feel the need to mandate to others what to call them. Everyone else is just pointing out that it's pathetic, which it is. Most people in Louisiana don't think of them as "Louisiana" or the "University of Louisiana". The schools from other states (Iowa, Michigan, Cal etc.) have tradition on their side rather than reps from the University brow beating all us that they are The University.

I think ULM should be called UL. Would that bother the people in Lafayette?

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Oh, and PS: UL Monroe is ranked HIGHER academically than UL Lafayette is. ULM is a tier 3 and ULL is a tier 4.

So if anyone should be the flagship, its ULM. All hail ULM, the REAL UL!

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LINK?

US News Rankings for Louisiana Universities
ULL, as well as LA Tech, are both Tier 4. I've always assumed it to be consensus that ULL and LA Tech are better schools than ULM.

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I've always assumed it to be consensus that ULL and LA Tech are better schools than ULM.

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that's what i thought as well. it looks like ULM didn't make the rankings at all

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My take: The athletics of the university, in particular football, are for the most part a joke. I find it an embarrasment to the state.

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LSU fans only think in terms of athletics.

The change to become the University of Louisiana was about a lot more than athletics. Anyone with a little common sense would know how much better name recognition is as the University of [insert state] compared to the University of [insert direction + "ern"] [insert state].

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Really? I have 14 LSU graduates in my family that care a lot about both athletics and academics. This message board pertains to athletics, so it will obviously dominate the board.

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My point was every time this thread was made LSU fans quickly point out the sad state ULL's athletics program is in.

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Is the University of Louisiana at Lafayette and the University of Louisiana at Monroe that much more presitigous than USL or NLU? I would give the name a little more credence if one school was designated the title University of Louisiana.

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ULL and ULL are more prestigious names, IMO. Of course you'd give more credence if one was entitled University of Louisiana -- why do you think ULL coveted that name?

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Come on ULM start puttin Louisiana in your endzones and UL on the scoreboard.

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cant. just dropped somethin like 4 mil for turf. got warhawks in it. and we couldnt afford to change it. we aint even got enough money to buy our coach out of the contract. so next year when his contract is up he is gone. its all but official. So is the crappy AD who wont do anything but stand up for a even crappier coach. they will both be gone.