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re: Why are tiger fans in such an uproar....
Posted on 1/12/10 at 9:13 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
Posted on 1/12/10 at 9:13 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
It is because of how we played in the wins this year. Not once this year has LSU dominated any team that it was suppose to. Barely winning at Vandy, Wash, Miss St, and Arkansas plus looking horrible against ULL, Tulane, La Tech is not conforting. I understand in a years time, every football team has let down games, but to have 7 of them is not inspiring.
With the non- progression of JJ and the coaching on this team. These barely wins will turn into more losses.
This is why people are worried.
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Like inheriting the most talented football team in the country. That is a lot of dilemmas to overcome. We have dilemmas now, it is coaching
With the non- progression of JJ and the coaching on this team. These barely wins will turn into more losses.
This is why people are worried.
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Given all that Miles has accomplished thus far in his tenure and the dilemmas he's had to overcome, he deserves credit and backing of the LSU faithful at a minimum of two more years to right the ship. I believe he can get the job done.
Like inheriting the most talented football team in the country. That is a lot of dilemmas to overcome. We have dilemmas now, it is coaching
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 9:14 am to JustSmokin
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8-5
9-4
$3.8 million a year
It's really that simple.
This + top recruiting classes year after year not living up to potential.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 9:44 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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Getting old? It's the truth. Any program in the country would suffer if they had to kick off their All-American #1 Rated QB in waiting. Say what you want, but that had a big affect on the the 2008 and 2009 seasons.
Jesus H. Christ...Not this shite again...frick what are you gonna say next year???
Posted on 1/12/10 at 9:47 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
quote:You do mean?
Fear da hat!!!
Posted on 1/12/10 at 9:49 am to Big Daddy58
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We have a great coach and a great program! Thinking we will win BCS every year is ignorant, and unrealistic. I will be happy to compete with the Alabama's and Florida's, as we have been doing.
O MY GOD are you fricking serious...I dont think there is one retard on here (and there are plenty) that thinks we should win the whole fricking thing every year...But fact is we look like shite, we've been looking like shite for two years and the only reason were still in the top 25 after looking like shite for the last two years is cause of what SABAN built....Our coach sucks and we want to prevent it from going down the shitter, most can see that he doesnt give a shite or he's ignorant, he's got his millions...but people like you are so blinded by "oh well, we lost, lets go party somewhere or have fun wee!!!" you people make me want to fricking puke your so ignornat...
Posted on 1/12/10 at 9:49 am to cggeaxtigers
im just trying to understand some fans NOT bashing anyones OPINION...but i grew up in the 80's and some of my first games i could remember werent very good ones, actually for 2/3 of my life LSU hasnt had a elite program. but in recent years LSU has risen to compete with top teams for championship. i wonder why is it NOT ok to be disapointed with an average year just because you remember the bad days? what if your a new fan and all you remember is recent success, its still not ok bc you werent around for the painfull years older fans were? IMO a fan is a fan and a disapointing season is what it is no matter what generation your from or how many more tears you think youve shead. we're all fans, die hard fans and i feel everyones pain just was wondering why its not ok to question the present status of the progam because of PAST failures?
Posted on 1/12/10 at 9:50 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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Why are tiger fans in such an uproar regarding the future of the program?
Every day there is a new thread asking this same question. If you can't see for yourself that there are problems in this program, then it's unlikely that you will accept any answer that I can provide.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 9:54 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
Anyone that has watched the games last couple of seasons and say's that this is a well coached team is dilusional. How can you ignore the same ridiculous mistakes occuring game after game and not just Tiger fan base, but national media portrays us as a running joke; This is unacceptable to me. I will never give up on Tigers or my season tickets, but for $4M a year, I have a "want" to see CLM straighten out this SOON as in 2010!
signed,
Tiger Nation
signed,
Tiger Nation
Posted on 1/12/10 at 10:02 am to jhhingle
Fwiw i dont accept 8-5 or 9-4, not with the talent we have or the amount of money we spend on coaches who arent developing the highly touted recruits we have reveived in the past couple years. and i WAS around for the 80's and early 90's. theres no excuse or reason or anything anyone can say that would make ME feel it hasnt been a disapointment.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 10:03 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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The 2008 season miles had to kick off R. Perrilloux, who was slated to take over as the starting QB, and had to roll with a walk-on Harvard transfer and a RS freshman who wasn't ready to play. That season ended 7-5 regular season and 8-5 with a bowl win and what was expected given the production out of the QB position. The shouldn't have been a sole tiger fan out there who thought we could've won more than 9 games max that year.
We should have beat Arkansas. That would have put us at 9 wins with the bowl victory. Mental breakdowns costs us that game.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 10:23 am to MountainTiger
quote:THIS!!!!!
500 in the sec with 1 win over a top 25 team in the past 2 yrs.
Why is it so hard to see?
Not to mention the fact that the team plays like crap & is unprepared even in the games they win.
quote:Hence, this.
Every day there is a new thread asking this same question. If you can't see for yourself that there are problems in this program, then it's unlikely that you will accept any answer that I can provide.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 10:47 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
I completely agree.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 10:55 am to jhhingle
Jeff? I thought you were in California.
Edit: Sorry, I just checked your profile. You are not the Jeff Hingle I knew at LSU.
Edit: Sorry, I just checked your profile. You are not the Jeff Hingle I knew at LSU.
This post was edited on 1/12/10 at 10:57 am
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:09 pm to Big Daddy58
We have a great coach and a great program! Thinking we will win BCS every year is ignorant, and unrealistic. I will be happy to compete with the Alabama's and Florida's, as we have been doing.
The difference here is that you are happy with competeing with the big dogs while the Bama's, USC's, Ohio St, OU's and ND's of the college football world are demanding histories attention. They don't expect to win the Championship every year but they do expect to have a team that is capable of winning it every year. At this point most LSU fans don't believe LSU can win the SEC West, much less the SEC or a NT. I want a team that I feel has a chance each and every year. Not a team that sticks its nose in everyone else's business a few years and then fades away for a while. Through out history those teams I mentioned have dominated college football. Sure they have down years, but their down years come about as regularly as our good years historically. Thats not good for LSU at all. Whats wrong with LSU fans wanting thier team to be one of those elite teams? The standard for greatness is set high and that's what those others schools expect. They aren't satisfied with just being able to compete and maybe win a title every now and again.
Its a culture. If you talked to any Bama fan and asked them why LSU had success the past decade 3 years ago before they hired Saban thier answer was because they were on probation. Not because LSU was a great team. If you ask them now they will say its because the present coach of Alabama got us there. Its all about superiority and Bama breeds it. It might piss you off but they are the ones with the great coach and the NT trophy. We might think they are a bunch of A-holes but they are still on top of the college football world once again.
To me its a bad sign that when you start to lose people say you are falling back to mediocrity, but when those big time schools start to lose they say oh how the mighty have fallen. Thats a big difference in stature and LSU and its 10 year stretch of dominance is still not enough to join the elite club.
The difference here is that you are happy with competeing with the big dogs while the Bama's, USC's, Ohio St, OU's and ND's of the college football world are demanding histories attention. They don't expect to win the Championship every year but they do expect to have a team that is capable of winning it every year. At this point most LSU fans don't believe LSU can win the SEC West, much less the SEC or a NT. I want a team that I feel has a chance each and every year. Not a team that sticks its nose in everyone else's business a few years and then fades away for a while. Through out history those teams I mentioned have dominated college football. Sure they have down years, but their down years come about as regularly as our good years historically. Thats not good for LSU at all. Whats wrong with LSU fans wanting thier team to be one of those elite teams? The standard for greatness is set high and that's what those others schools expect. They aren't satisfied with just being able to compete and maybe win a title every now and again.
Its a culture. If you talked to any Bama fan and asked them why LSU had success the past decade 3 years ago before they hired Saban thier answer was because they were on probation. Not because LSU was a great team. If you ask them now they will say its because the present coach of Alabama got us there. Its all about superiority and Bama breeds it. It might piss you off but they are the ones with the great coach and the NT trophy. We might think they are a bunch of A-holes but they are still on top of the college football world once again.
To me its a bad sign that when you start to lose people say you are falling back to mediocrity, but when those big time schools start to lose they say oh how the mighty have fallen. Thats a big difference in stature and LSU and its 10 year stretch of dominance is still not enough to join the elite club.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:19 pm to TigerFan55555
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O MY GOD are you fricking serious...I dont think there is one retard on here (and there are plenty) that thinks we should win the whole fricking thing every year...But fact is we look like shite, we've been looking like shite for two years and the only reason were still in the top 25 after looking like shite for the last two years is cause of what SABAN built....Our coach sucks and we want to prevent it from going down the shitter, most can see that he doesnt give a shite or he's ignorant, he's got his millions...but people like you are so blinded by "oh well, we lost, lets go party somewhere or have fun wee!!!" you people make me want to fricking puke your so ignornat...
First of all I do not have an Oh well attitude as you postulate! I would rather win tham lose! But having said that, if you were a Florida, USC, Tenn, etc. fan oh the list goes on, would you be calling for Urban or Pete's head! I doubt it! There can only be 1 winner and everyone else has to accept it, even you. The way I saw it when I played was we give it our best, and hope that is good enough. Sometimes you get beat, or beat yourself. You pick yourselves up and fight on. You don't call for eveyone on the team to be replaced. That to me is ignorance. (correct spelling by the way retard) Joe Alleva's letter is something you might read to get an idea what kind of excellent record we have.
You like Saban, so much become a BAMA fan, please!
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:29 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
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That season ended 7-5 regular season and 8-5 with a bowl win and what was expected given the production out of the QB position. The shouldn't have been a sole tiger fan out there who thought we could've won more than 9 games max that year.
Ridiculous. With any kind of decent defense, we easily could have won 9 games that year, even with the QB situation the way it was. With any kind of decent QB coaching AND any kind of decent defense, we would have won every game that year except Florida.
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The 2009 season went exactly how most of us thought it would go 9-3 during the regular season.
9-3 wasn't the point (although many predicted better). It was throwing away the Ole Miss game with sheer stupidity, then throwing away a chance against Penn State with the same kind of stupidity.
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This upcoming season we should see GREAT improvement
We SHOULD have seen it over the past two years. We WON'T see it as long as Les Miles is our head coach.
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seriously, we have athletes all over the field
Yes, we seriously do. So, why do we lose half our conference games now?
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position coaching changes we have made thus far
What? Bringing in a fricking wide receivers coach? You think the 112th best offense in the country was because our wide receivers weren't being coached properly?
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I believe we can be a very good team next year. I seriously believe that we can we at a minimum 10 games next season.
There's no question that the talent is there to win 11 or even 12 games in the regular season next year. Unfortunately, the coaching is not there to win even nine. Although we have 11-1 or 12-0 talent, 8-4 is our best case scenario, with 6-6 or 7-5 much more likely than 8-4 or better.
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I just don't get it how so many people on here thinks that the tiger football program is heading to the medocrity years of the 90's.
The 90s weren't mediocre. They were worse than that. Whether we fall all the way down to the level we were at in the 90s depends solely on how long Alleva is willing to let Miles ride the program into the ground. If he fires him after next season, we might avoid the full-on collapse that happened back then. If Miles gets two more years or longer, we could very easily be right back at 1990 or so.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:46 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
quote:Oh, he's the reason LSU produced it's worst defense since Complete Linebacking, allowing UGA and UF put up 50+. Excellent. And how many games did RP start in his career at LSU? 1?
The 2008 season miles had to kick off R. Perrilloux
quote:Yes, completely expected to play tight games against the monsters of the gridiron in Washington, Vandy, MSU and La Tech. Having the 112th ranked offense was superb. Never beating a team that finished in the top 25, that's LSU football now.
The 2009 season went exactly how most of us thought it would go 9-3 during the regular season.
Here's a list of the juggernauts LSU owes 8 of its last 17 wins against:
Appalachian St. (NC)
North Texas
Tulane (LA)
Troy (AL)
Washington
Louisiana-Lafayette
Louisiana Tech
Against any decent compeition - including crap teams likes MSU and Vanderbilt - Miles is 9 wins, 9 losses. Why be upset? Let's hold hands and sing Kumbaya.
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:50 pm to Big Daddy58
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Florida, USC, Tenn, etc. fan oh the list goes on, would you be calling for Urban or Pete's head!
Are you really comparing our coach to those guys? If your high right now, just let me know and Ill save time and energy...do you understand?
WE HAVE THE TALENT, WE DONT HAVE THE COACHING!! ITS THE WAY WE LOST, ITS THE WAY WE LOOKED!! HELL, ITS THE WAY WE WON!!! WE LOOKED LIKE shite ALL THE frickING TIME!!! WE HAD ONE GAME THAT EVEN RESEMBLED WHAT WE ARE CAPABLE OF...IS THAT WORTH 4 MILLION??? NO!!! FACT IS I WOULDNT BE PISSED SO MUCH IF THAT frickER WAS MAKING ABOUT 50 GRAND!!!
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The way I saw it when I played was we give it our best, and hope that is good enough. Sometimes you get beat, or beat yourself. You pick yourselves up and fight on.
APPROPRIATELY ENGRAVED ON THE WALL AT THE LOCAL YMCA!
Go back to church dude...leave football alone...
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:51 pm to Nuts4LSU
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The 90s weren't mediocre. They were worse than that. Whether we fall all the way down to the level we were at in the 90s depends solely on how long Alleva is willing to let Miles ride the program into the ground. If he fires him after next season, we might avoid the full-on collapse that happened back then. If Miles gets two more years or longer, we could very easily be right back at 1990 or so.
yes sir, I just hope, if/when they do fire him we dont lose that big time signing class of 2011....how bad would that suck...I hear they all want to play for LSU and hopefully a coaching change wont alter that...Thats the only thing i worry about
Posted on 1/12/10 at 12:52 pm to TreeDawg
"Because most of the Nega-tigers are too young to remember the many years of bad to mediocre teams/coaching we sat thru just wishing every year LSU could be regarded as a top tier program"
That is bunk!!! I remember and I am mad as hell
That is bunk!!! I remember and I am mad as hell
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