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re: what is the factor that is keeping us from consistently dominating?

Posted on 12/8/13 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2010
8153 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 9:53 pm to
We lose to more teams than just bama.
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 9:53 pm to
I will add this though. If we finish this years class like we should and continue to go 9-3, then we have a problem. This class is built for a championship or at worst a BCS bowl game.
Posted by HeadBusta4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
11312 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 9:53 pm to
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Les gets all those players to come to LSU brah. We had an undefeated regular season recently and are an elite team every year. THERE IS ONLY ONE NICK SABAN. GET OVER IT.


Then he forgot he still had to coach in the championship game
Posted by BradyAlex
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
27 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 9:53 pm to
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Les gets all those players to come to LSU brah. We had an undefeated regular season recently and are an elite team every year. THERE IS ONLY ONE NICK SABAN. GET OVER IT.


Agreed. I went to school during the DiNardo era. And sadly, it appeared to be progress.
Posted by Child of the Missip
Member since May 2012
1522 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 9:53 pm to
Authoritarian leadership vs Authoritative leadership

It's the difference between being very good and dominating. We have been near identical with Alabama in every facet of the game except in one category.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66395 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 9:54 pm to
IF you haven't noticed, we play teams that have 8-10 people leave for the draft.

Our talent is good, but we have this imaginary talent gap between us and other elite teams, that really isn't there.

Throw in there that we play in a competitive league where shite happens, this is the season you get sometimes.
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 9:54 pm to
He did shite the bed in the championship game, but what LSU did that year was nothing short of amazing. Beating a team like Bama twice was a very tall order.
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
2345 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

Agree 100% with the OP. This is the LSU of new, 10-2 don't cut it anymore. Sorry, go be mediocre somewhere else.



LSU has only been better than 10-2 3 times since 2000.

The program has only had 3 good years?
This post was edited on 12/8/13 at 9:57 pm
Posted by TexTiga
SugarLand , Tx
Member since Oct 2007
2538 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 9:57 pm to
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What is the factor


Um perhaps the other 12 teams we play each year? Gumps are the only team that has ruled the last 3 years and now you see they will be watching the chip as well. Isn't it past your bedtime jr?
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14167 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 9:59 pm to
Two words....Les Miles.
Posted by MrPackSix
Lakeview/God's Country
Member since Oct 2009
8220 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:02 pm to
Team reflects the personality of its head coach

Miles is a great guy and a good coach but he doesnt have a killer instinct
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36107 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:07 pm to
Saban at LSU was better than 10-2 only once: 2003

Miles at LSU has been better than 10-2 more consistently:

2005: 11-2
2006: 11-2
2007: 12-2
2010: 11-2
2011: 13-1

Saban has improved as a coach since arriving at Alabama but to hold up LSU to his rate of success in a negative light is a little myopic when they have had more success than any other team as well. Florida, UGA, Tennessee, Auburn, Texas, OU, USCw, tOSU, FSU, Miami etc all suffer by comparison as well... and none of them are close to .500 against Saban in regular season results
Posted by AlwaysPutsSeatDown
Member since May 2008
988 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:07 pm to
Just cannot get all factors together at once.2005 Katrina; 2006, four top tens on the road 2008, 09, 10,11 no quarterback, 2012 new quarterback, 2013 no defense......If you want to blame Miles hit him for not recruiting and developing a quarterback!
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:08 pm to
It's recruiting. Not enough emphasis placed on getting the big uglies in the trenches. It's been a wekness for LSU for a long time. Look at the bama game. We came out on fire well prepared with a great game plan but just got beat down as the game progressed. MIles recruiting doesn't match his philosophy. He wants to beat down the opponent and establish dominance with the run game but doesn't recruit the guys in the trenches to do it with. Need to change to a more open offense to match our personnel.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

haha sorry for the 03


You are a troll!

NO LSU fan fricks up who coached LSU in 2003 or 2007.

That or you are just a fricking idiot.
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
7885 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:10 pm to
We lack attention to detail and we do not play to win every play.

Case in point: go look at CLMs presser after the Arkansas game. It was like he was pleased with effort.

It's that attitude that will always hold us back from being a dynasty like Bama.
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
2345 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:10 pm to
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Miles at LSU has been better than 10-2 more consistently:




Sorry, my saying 3 was regular seasons. 3 regular seasons since 2000 better than 10-2. LSU has won the SEC more often than they've been better than 10-2 in the regular season.
This post was edited on 12/8/13 at 10:11 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36107 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:14 pm to
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LSU has won the SEC more often than they've been better than 10-2 in the regular season.



I must be misunderstanding you because that reads wrong to me.

LSU SEC Championships since 2000:
2001 (3 regular season losses)
2003 (1 regular season loss)
2007 (2 regular season losses)
2011 (0 regular season losses)

Seasons better than 10-2 since 2000:
2003: 13-1
2005: 11-2
2006: 11-2
2007: 12-2
2010: 11-2
2011: 13-1
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

Miles is a great guy and a good coach but he doesnt have a killer instinct


We don't have the type guys in the trenches to have a 'killer instinct' type team. He tries to keep pushing that smash mouth 'killer instinct' type philosophy but with out the personell to do it with. Need to get away from that and go more with a team that establishes the passing game in order to open up the run game instead of the other way around. JUst might happen with Jennings though hopefully. He's the type QB that doesn't need a good pocket to pass from and will be hard to contain. Won't have to smash it up the middle with him at QB.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

It's that attitude that will always hold us back from being a dynasty like Bama.



it's not attitude, it's personel. We just don't match up with them, but that could change
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