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re: What does the nation outside of Louisiana say about LSU?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:49 am to namvet6566
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:49 am to namvet6566
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Having lived in six different States, people love us, love the food, they thought LSU is a great Sports School. When I tell them about Baseball attendance they freak out.
Other than that they think Louisiana is a third world State and......they are correct
All of this is true!!
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:54 am to TigersHeisman225
Both in Chicago and Memphis, I get a grudging respect when I wear LSU gear or mention I attended LSU. I don't think people know much about it outside of athletics. People are surprised to learn just how solid it is as a research institution.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:01 am to AbitaFan08
Have been out here on the west coast since 2000 and benefited from the fact that my first boss was a huge Laker fan. Jackson had just arrived and it was the first of championships for Shaq and Kobe. Most people that I encounter are very curious about Louisiana culture and have Tiger Stadium (as well as NOLA Mardi Gras) on their bucket list. They are aware of college baseball, thanks to CS Fullerton, Long Beach, Stanford, USC, UC Irvine, etc.
Regarding academics, if they look down their noses at LSU, it isn't apparent. Most people here didn't attend Stanford, USC, but the smaller, over-crowded state schools. I hold my own in my field and that carries more weight than the esteem of the school(s) I attended.
Regarding academics, if they look down their noses at LSU, it isn't apparent. Most people here didn't attend Stanford, USC, but the smaller, over-crowded state schools. I hold my own in my field and that carries more weight than the esteem of the school(s) I attended.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:21 am to lsufanz
I work with a guy from Memphis and who grew up in St. Louis. For whatever reason, he loves LSU.
I think his main reason is he hates Ole Miss and Bama so much, actually.
Anyway, I am in contact with folks nationwide in my work, either in person or by phone. Every single one of them are intrigued by my country arse accent AND by LA culture.
Most folks out of the way think all of LA is covered in swamps, alligators, and Cajuns.
One lady told me she came to LA once and didn't understand why we ate rice as much as we did. Go figure.
And most everyone outside the rivals seem to have great respect for LSU football and baseball.
I think his main reason is he hates Ole Miss and Bama so much, actually.
Anyway, I am in contact with folks nationwide in my work, either in person or by phone. Every single one of them are intrigued by my country arse accent AND by LA culture.
Most folks out of the way think all of LA is covered in swamps, alligators, and Cajuns.
One lady told me she came to LA once and didn't understand why we ate rice as much as we did. Go figure.
And most everyone outside the rivals seem to have great respect for LSU football and baseball.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:45 am to FreeState
I travel a good but and my perception from interaction with others is that LSU is a well known brand. Mostly for football, and to a lesser extent baseball. Born and raised in New Orleans and have lived in Texas for 30+ years. Texans without Louisiana ties, as a general rule, tend to look down at LSU as an inferior school academically. But, for the most part, they certainly acknowledge(sometimes begrudgingly) LSU's athletic prowess.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:54 am to Tiger in NY
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Yep, and the east coast elitists see it as nothing more too. They view LSU as a total and complete joke academically.
They view any place outside of the NE as a joke
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:55 am to TigersHeisman225
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What does the nation outside of Louisiana say about LSU?
not a single frick to give
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:02 am to TigersHeisman225
As a resident of South Bend, IN I can tell you that up here at least LSU is thought of as a non-academic school that only wins by recruiting retards and thugs, that we have no moral standards and don't care about discipline issues or maintaining any facade of being an institution that has any concerns about academics. I try to just roll my eyes and walk away.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:06 am to 1badboy
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I can tell u never went to LSU
And glad I didn't!
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:36 am to Dalosaqy
My children attended Columbia, Harvard, NYU, Georgia Tech and my son LSU. He's as smart as the others, has an entrepreneurial spirit and will do just as well in life. In the end, he didn't want to go anywhere to college where he was too far away to duck hunt.
Two of my children played college ball: volleyball and baseball. I have a perspective of what LSU means to others, academically and in sports, that is unique, in this regard. You don't get a better education just because you attent an IVY league school, but what you do get, is a culling of academic talent at the admissions process. Top employers focus their attention there because those schools have already narrowed the pool of prospective employees to the top 5%. There are great students at LSU, the education is just as good, but it takes a little more effort to find the best.
I've watched IVY versus LSU baseball, and the biggest difference is speed. Columbia's baseball program back in the mid 2010's was very strong, but never made it past the first round of the playoffs. Yale did pretty good this year. They were a 3 seed but drew Oregon State in the super regional and got trounced. There will never be parody with the Ivy League schools because there are no athletic scholarships. The gift is really the degree.
Two of my children played college ball: volleyball and baseball. I have a perspective of what LSU means to others, academically and in sports, that is unique, in this regard. You don't get a better education just because you attent an IVY league school, but what you do get, is a culling of academic talent at the admissions process. Top employers focus their attention there because those schools have already narrowed the pool of prospective employees to the top 5%. There are great students at LSU, the education is just as good, but it takes a little more effort to find the best.
I've watched IVY versus LSU baseball, and the biggest difference is speed. Columbia's baseball program back in the mid 2010's was very strong, but never made it past the first round of the playoffs. Yale did pretty good this year. They were a 3 seed but drew Oregon State in the super regional and got trounced. There will never be parody with the Ivy League schools because there are no athletic scholarships. The gift is really the degree.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:42 am to Tigerbiscuits
"Ever seen waterboy?".....
Sadly enough while not what a very large majority thinks of the state and it's people as a whole, these steriotypes is what comes to mind to probably about half to three fourths of the nation when it comes to our average citizens. I've met people who really thought I've eaten nutria rat and no matter how improbable it sounds when spoken, the thoughts these people have about everyday life in Louisiana can be plain ridiculous. On the other hand I've met plenty of people who think we actually have the best collection of diversity amongst our residents, things like education, culture, principals, common decency are placed with high amounts of value and consideration to these sort of outsiders looking in....
The problem is how do you go about fixing this perception that the majority of Louisiana's citizens are Backwater Cajun pieces of white trash that have 3 teeth and just married their cousin....
Sadly the media portrays us in these very negative lights in a more national spotlight that the average American sees more often than something representative of reality. TV shows like Duck Dynasty, Swamp People, etc...have done nothing but completely lock in these false narratives and characterized us all as if we were morons. The fact that you see the Robertson's on TV and they are identified as wealthy natives of Louisiana and it's basically shown that even the rich and we'll to do among us are still these freaking trash bag rednecks. And yes, they are that popular in American pop culture. The viewership of their show has touched most homes with cable access and even if that number is a minority percentage of Americans, which it is, the fact is that the people without access still have had their ability to see Louisiana at it's absolute worst....hunting alligators, walking around with shabby beards and camo jumpsuits in every situation life could bring forth. And it will never stop at a level that is anything close to changing this entirely skewed perception of us. The other gigantic problem is the coverage of national disasters that happen In our state. 10 plus years ago a lot of people in this country got their first real taste of what people in Louisiana are like when Katrina hit and was on a 24 hour cycle of news for weeks, showing literal human atrocities being committed at a level that was absolutely sickening to most. And everyone around the country saw the people of New Orleans at the worst they possibly could have, and that's after it was for years already known as the "murder capital of the country" ...If were not white trash rednecks then we are ghetto criminals and both of these totally wrong steriotypes are what probably 75 percent of the country thinks of us as a whole.
As someone who takes more pride in my state that it is worthy of, a born and raised Baton Rouge kid, loving my home as much as I do...it's still hard for me to even mildly accept this when it comes to how we are portrayed and seen to be. I hate it to my core that the great people I grew up with and could count with my life in hand are seen and thought of as fractions of the people they truly are. All because of poor media coverage and the want for drama and ratings on national cable networks. Promotion of the worst qualities of the worst Louisiana citizens is what gets put out there more often than not, and it will not change until we as a state stop allowing ourselves to be put on national spotlights in such ways. The person has to sign that release and has to agree to the portrayal that is going to run.....sadly the fact is that no matter what we do, how we change for the better, whether individually or as a whole community, the majority of Americans will never care enough to change their initial opinion of us all....and for almost everyone who is an adult that knew little about Louisiana before Katrina...what they had branded in their minds after is what's going to be there forever.
Sadly enough while not what a very large majority thinks of the state and it's people as a whole, these steriotypes is what comes to mind to probably about half to three fourths of the nation when it comes to our average citizens. I've met people who really thought I've eaten nutria rat and no matter how improbable it sounds when spoken, the thoughts these people have about everyday life in Louisiana can be plain ridiculous. On the other hand I've met plenty of people who think we actually have the best collection of diversity amongst our residents, things like education, culture, principals, common decency are placed with high amounts of value and consideration to these sort of outsiders looking in....
The problem is how do you go about fixing this perception that the majority of Louisiana's citizens are Backwater Cajun pieces of white trash that have 3 teeth and just married their cousin....
Sadly the media portrays us in these very negative lights in a more national spotlight that the average American sees more often than something representative of reality. TV shows like Duck Dynasty, Swamp People, etc...have done nothing but completely lock in these false narratives and characterized us all as if we were morons. The fact that you see the Robertson's on TV and they are identified as wealthy natives of Louisiana and it's basically shown that even the rich and we'll to do among us are still these freaking trash bag rednecks. And yes, they are that popular in American pop culture. The viewership of their show has touched most homes with cable access and even if that number is a minority percentage of Americans, which it is, the fact is that the people without access still have had their ability to see Louisiana at it's absolute worst....hunting alligators, walking around with shabby beards and camo jumpsuits in every situation life could bring forth. And it will never stop at a level that is anything close to changing this entirely skewed perception of us. The other gigantic problem is the coverage of national disasters that happen In our state. 10 plus years ago a lot of people in this country got their first real taste of what people in Louisiana are like when Katrina hit and was on a 24 hour cycle of news for weeks, showing literal human atrocities being committed at a level that was absolutely sickening to most. And everyone around the country saw the people of New Orleans at the worst they possibly could have, and that's after it was for years already known as the "murder capital of the country" ...If were not white trash rednecks then we are ghetto criminals and both of these totally wrong steriotypes are what probably 75 percent of the country thinks of us as a whole.
As someone who takes more pride in my state that it is worthy of, a born and raised Baton Rouge kid, loving my home as much as I do...it's still hard for me to even mildly accept this when it comes to how we are portrayed and seen to be. I hate it to my core that the great people I grew up with and could count with my life in hand are seen and thought of as fractions of the people they truly are. All because of poor media coverage and the want for drama and ratings on national cable networks. Promotion of the worst qualities of the worst Louisiana citizens is what gets put out there more often than not, and it will not change until we as a state stop allowing ourselves to be put on national spotlights in such ways. The person has to sign that release and has to agree to the portrayal that is going to run.....sadly the fact is that no matter what we do, how we change for the better, whether individually or as a whole community, the majority of Americans will never care enough to change their initial opinion of us all....and for almost everyone who is an adult that knew little about Louisiana before Katrina...what they had branded in their minds after is what's going to be there forever.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:46 am to TigersHeisman225
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:08 pm to TigersHeisman225
A football/party school. Basically, just your standard in-state school. Nothing more. Nothing less.
I really do think it is a better investment than the majority of other SEC state schools strictly due to its connections with Houston and Dallas. I'm not suggesting that Houston and Dallas are the "crème de la crème", however you simply cannot deny the abundance of high-paying jobs they produce.
I really do think it is a better investment than the majority of other SEC state schools strictly due to its connections with Houston and Dallas. I'm not suggesting that Houston and Dallas are the "crème de la crème", however you simply cannot deny the abundance of high-paying jobs they produce.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:47 pm to Stevo
Out of 310 national universities UGA is tied with UT in USNews college academic rankings (#56). UF (#50) and Vanderbilt(#15) are ranked ahead of UT. a&m IS RANK (#74).
LSU is ranked #135. Ahead of only the Mississippi schools and Arkansas in the SEC. Wish it was better.
LSU is ranked #135. Ahead of only the Mississippi schools and Arkansas in the SEC. Wish it was better.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:57 pm to mdomingue
To be honest, I've been pretty impressed with the level of discourse and coherent thoughts from this thread. Granted, not everyone here is an LSU alum, but I had the prejudice/bias that LSU was a school Texas kids went to when they couldn't get into UT/A&M, they couldn't afford Baylor/SMU/TCU and didn't want to go Oklahoma State or Arkansas (the two schools which poach the 3 star academic Texas kids by offering in-state tuition to lure them from their fate in commuter-directional-school hell).
So, that sounds maybe a bit condescending, but to synthesize down to my point:
LSU is like a poor man's A&M, but the best option outside of Tulane especially if interested in O&G and having fun/Greek life.
So, that sounds maybe a bit condescending, but to synthesize down to my point:
LSU is like a poor man's A&M, but the best option outside of Tulane especially if interested in O&G and having fun/Greek life.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:18 pm to TigersHeisman225
I live in the Philadelphia area. Much like most posters said the first thing that gets brought up is football, alligators, and food.
Academics doesn't get mentioned at all and that includes at job interviews. They see your degree field and experience and that gets you the interview. From there it's on you. As a hiring manager, I tend to look for candidates who graduated from larger state schools (PSU, Rutgers, Maryland, LSU, whatever) or private schools with a reputation for engineering (Drexel, Lehigh, Bucknell) etc. I put all of those schools in both categories on the same level. Holding all else equal, I discount small state schools like an SLU, USL, or McNeese. The question I ask myself when looking at a resume is "Did the candidate want to attend the best school in his area?" Once the interview starts, I couldn't care less anymore about pedigrees, 5 minutes of Q & A and I will have sized him/her up.
In a large city, there is so much diversity relative to college attendance it's not like there are one or two large cliques of a predominant alumni base.
When it comes to social settings, they think it's neat I went there and ask a lot of questions about the usual stuff.
But going back to academics, since I've moved up here I've never, and I mean not once been thought of as inferior because of my college (for other reasons, perhaps..).
Academics doesn't get mentioned at all and that includes at job interviews. They see your degree field and experience and that gets you the interview. From there it's on you. As a hiring manager, I tend to look for candidates who graduated from larger state schools (PSU, Rutgers, Maryland, LSU, whatever) or private schools with a reputation for engineering (Drexel, Lehigh, Bucknell) etc. I put all of those schools in both categories on the same level. Holding all else equal, I discount small state schools like an SLU, USL, or McNeese. The question I ask myself when looking at a resume is "Did the candidate want to attend the best school in his area?" Once the interview starts, I couldn't care less anymore about pedigrees, 5 minutes of Q & A and I will have sized him/her up.
In a large city, there is so much diversity relative to college attendance it's not like there are one or two large cliques of a predominant alumni base.
When it comes to social settings, they think it's neat I went there and ask a lot of questions about the usual stuff.
But going back to academics, since I've moved up here I've never, and I mean not once been thought of as inferior because of my college (for other reasons, perhaps..).
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:44 pm to TigersHeisman225
Who cares? Lions don't care what lambs think about them.....
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:00 pm to OU812
Biggest thing I hear in Houston is LSU cant get a QB . If they could get a QB , they'd be unstoppable.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:04 pm to timbo
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Who cares? Lions don't care what lambs think about them.....
Posted on 6/15/17 at 2:24 pm to MeTarzanYouInsane
I lived in Philly for a while myself. Honestly, some folks needed me to spell out what LSU meant ("Louisiana...?"). Others knew LSU sports and that was about it.
The ONLY placed I've lived where I've gotten negative reactions about LSU? East Alabama. Folks in Philly, DC, and Chicago don't even flinch. But folks around Auburn... they think LSU is a trashy joke. They lack a certain amount of introspection it seems...
The ONLY placed I've lived where I've gotten negative reactions about LSU? East Alabama. Folks in Philly, DC, and Chicago don't even flinch. But folks around Auburn... they think LSU is a trashy joke. They lack a certain amount of introspection it seems...
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 2:28 pm
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