re: We are in the midst of a Brandon Harris lovefest

Harris will be fine this year. I have seen plenty freshman thrown into the fire and struggle. Especially at his position. Jennings has hit his ceiling. Dont forget, the receivers didnt help out much in big games. If Quinn doesnt drop the ball on 3rd down twice late in the Bama game, we win. Same with Dural getting pushed around all year, only helped us on deep balls. I think we will see much improvement with Harris and the maturing of his receivers.

OP is 100% correct.

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Manziel and Winston were only RS Freshmen when they won the Heisman. Some "Get It" quick and some don't. Football isn't Rocket Science.

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I have a question for you. Is it hard being this dumb? Two totally different situations, offensive systems & work ethic between the those two players.

First off, it's well documented that Manziel was a lazy, lackadaisical QB at A&M who didn't put in the work to be his best. He was a product of an environment that lacked in house discipline & system in the air raid spread, that doesn't involve a quarterback to have to think for himself on the field. All plays & audibles are called from the sideline. The same lack of discipline under Kevin Sumlin is what led to the demise of Kenny "Trill" Hill in College Station.

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It appears that the Aggies starting quarterback may have had too much to drink Thursday night before the Alabama game. Kenny Hill was spotted at Chimy’s, a bar on the Northgate district, and was reportedly carried out by two girls after getting kicked out. Shortly after, he was seen throwing up into a trashcan.

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The truth is, Manziel would have been an absolute failure had he attended any program that runs a pro style offense whether it be LSU, Alabama, Michigan, USC, South Carolina, or any Power 5 conference school who uses the pro style system.

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The biggest on-field concern with Manziel as he moved into the NFL was whether he could master the nuances of a pro system. At Texas A&M, the emphasis was on tempo, calling plays in a hurry and getting to the line to run plays quickly. In the NFL, pre-snap reads, protections and coverages matter more than tempo.

At A&M, the center made protection calls and Manziel's job was, in part, to find mismatches, often throwing to dominant 6-foot-5 receiver Mike Evans or scrambling when plays broke down.

"The way we talked about him in meetings, the kid never put in the time he needed to -- studying film, organizing workouts, 7-on-7 workouts -- he didn't do it," said one NFC scout with a Southeastern Conference focus. "His thing would be he's going to show up on Saturdays, 'I'm a gamer.' He'd show up for practices and games but that's about it. Johnny thought he was an NFL superstar before he came [into the league]."

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As far as Jameis Winston goes, he was the prototypical QB prodigy. Despite the image his off the field incidents & antics portraying him being an idiot (which I agree with from an off the field standpoint),his football IQ & knowledge of the quarterback position was off the charts good. He was way more advanced than your average QB coming out of high school in 2012 when he was the #1 QB recruit in the nation.

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In the sixth grade, Winston played for a youth football team in the nearby town of Hoover, for a coach named Greg Blackman. Winston was the quarterback and the middle linebacker, and he had the freedom to blitz on his own and the freedom to read defenses on his own. That 2005 team went undefeated, which was not unusual, since Blackman's team won 50 consecutive games. But that team was so good that Blackman often goes back and watches the highlight video (below) he compiled, with Jameis Winston at the center of it.

"He'd call timeout and say, 'Coach, they're clearly lined up this way," Blackman says. "It's just a trait. It's part of his nature to lead. He's smart in the classroom, he's smart in the field. He just knows. He had it in him. We were playing a Thanksgiving game against a team that had never lost, and had a kid who's a Division I player now, and he came up to me at halftime and said, 'Coach, you know we're not gonna lose.'

"And we beat them pretty handily."

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Eisen said Mariucci called Winston "the most astute X's and O's guy that he's ever put on the board" for his draft breakdowns.

"He was not only answering the questions that Steve was throwing at him but anticipating what that question might lead to next and answering that question before Steve even posed it," Eisen said.

NFL Media analyst Mike Mayock said Mariucci's comments were in line with what he had heard about Winston's football IQ and work ethic, which he has been told are "off the charts."

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There's been no "Preponderace of Evidence" as of yet that Brandon Harris: Knows the Playbook, Can Audible, Can Check Down, Can give blocking assignments pre-snap, Can read the Safety high/low, Can recognize Cover 1-2, Can pick-Up blitzes or any of the other things necessary that really good QB's do.

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By all accounts, Harris is an extremely bright young man. He had a rough go last year making the transition from high school to college but there is no evidence showing that he can't make a Winston type jump in his second year.

Matter of fact, all signs point to him making this type of type of jump. Both coaches & teammates are raving about his work ethic in the film room & on the practice field. Hard work equals knowledge. When knowledge & talent come together, special players are birthed.

Your ignorance leads to pessimism. Instead of paying attention to all the signs, your focus on all things negative is blinding you from seeing what is about happen & that would be Brandon Harris exploding out on the college football scene in route to becoming a household name across the country.

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Just a reminder to some of the youth on the site...several of the most successful NFL QBs in history were somewhat slow in truly maturing as a QB...

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This maybe the most underrated post in this entire thread but it's as real & as spot on of a post you will see here.

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the very notion that there is a "Jennings camp" and a "Harris camp" is poppycock. everyone saw what AJ did last year and everyone wants better QB play this year. on this board if one says something positive about AJ, you get "branded" automatically and get called names. junior high stuff.

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It's childish. I want both players to better. It looks like Harris will be given the reigns to the position but if he is injured at any point, I want Jennings to be improved & ready to go. Next man up. Every spoke in the wheel is important.

The saddest part is that these so called fans who are anti Jennings, don't even realize our season may ride on Jennings in the worst case scenario mentioned above.

It's a line on a battlefield where everyone seems to choose a side & fight to the death. Fans should be worried about the overall good of the team instead of picking a side in a QB battle they have no control whatsoever over.

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Brandon Harris exploding out on the college football scene in route to becoming a household name across the country. 

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I see this as a very real possibility

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have your fun fellas.

when the season starts, I predict the magic will wear off of the romance.

this is LSU. I have known our fans for many years and we don't change. the minute BH struggles or throws him some picks the Tiger faithful will start calling for the backup.

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LSU GrandDad

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