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re: UF Series Takeaways

Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:44 am to
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70345 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:44 am to
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I don't think enough can be said about Beck and the way he has pitched coming out the pen. He has been nothing short of phenomenal.


Yeah, I mentioned in the Reynolds thread last week that if the hat incident never happened people might actually be talking about the emergence of Beck. He's becoming a very valuable piece of the pen.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:44 am to
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So much so that the other head coach accused him of doctoring the ball for the first two outs, including one strike out, that he got. Then after the cheating accusation he blew up and walked the next batter and PM took him out.
#googate
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70345 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:45 am to
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#googate


I can't
Posted by 81Tiger
LSU Alumnus
Member since Sep 2009
6629 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:48 am to
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No offense to Fla fans but they were playing two pretty big basketball games on Fri and Sun that conflicted with the baseball games.


Well, that offends me as a baseball fan...but I get your point.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14908 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:52 am to
Only Saturday really upset me. Friday was a great game and Florida made the play they needed on their home field. It happens. I didn't think our hitting was miserable like so many, we out hit Florida on the weekend and in 2 of the 3 games. What was miserable however was our ability to hit in timely situations, with men on base, etc.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18965 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:03 am to
Good analysis.

Florida's starting pitching is the most talented in the SEC besides South Carolina so it's nice to get that series out the way early. While not sexy to get at least 1 out of 3 on the road given the hitting struggles isn't too bad.

One thing you have to give Florida's rotation credit for is the way they attacked LSU's hitters early and often. LSU wasn't able to work many counts and they were off balance when 0-2 or 1-2.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10092 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:13 am to
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Slaughter is 10 times worse and where are the people bitching about him every day?
Not trendy.
Folks rarely look up a supporting stat before posting and just parrot other's misconceptions.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61840 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:23 am to
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13085 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:33 am to
The NCAA Tournament had little to do with a small turnout of UF fans. I've seen big games at UF in baseball have poor attendance for years. UF baseball just does not have great fan support...like UGA and AU and bama and UK and Vandy and Tenn and Mizzou. Ags can get 6K for big games which is good, I guess. Only LSU, Arkansas, State, OM, and Carolina have good baseball fanbases.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17176 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:47 am to
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bruh


brah
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19303 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:24 pm to
All the ranters here are making evaluations on our hitters based only on what they see in a game. Consider that the coaching staff sees every at bat at practice, at bats are taped & videos studied afterwards. Point being, CPM knows our batters & their capabilities & liabilities, based on what he sees every day. That he is an HOF coach speaks for itself. As compared to the experts here.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:34 pm to
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based only on what they see in a game
At what point during the year is in-game performance the only relevant piece to an evaluation?
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Consider that the coaching staff sees every at bat at practice
A few of us have seen some of these ABs as well. And if they were given a ton of weight, Fraley would not have seen the field for 2 years.
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CPM knows our batters & their capabilities & liabilities, based on what he sees every day
Of course he does. That doesn't make him the only one. Nor does that make him always right and everyone else always wrong.
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That he is an HOF coach speaks for itself. As compared to the experts here.
This is such a big cop-out. You and Gray use it all the time. No one is arguing PM's credentials. That isn't the topic; that doesn't mean people are wrong or can't discuss what they see. And it doesn't make him always right. Not that people here would be great coaches or know what they're saying. This isn't the argument. But if we're limited to the things we can criticize and compliment (because if the negative is devalued, so is the positive, right?) based solely on the amount of games we've coached and won, this site would not exist and neither would anyone's opinion.

If you think PM made the right call about something, say so and say why. Same if you think he made the wrong call. My point being that you should be able to back it up with a relevant stat or situational understanding outside of, "well, he's the coach!"
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10092 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:03 pm to
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he's a guy who swings first pitch curveball 6 inches off the plate. just a free swinger, no plate discipline.
Actually Beau has as good or better bb/so ratio as any DH candidate, IIRC.
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:30 pm to
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I really don't get an approach that would have us not working the count against Faedo, who walked 1000 guys the week before. Or even Singer. Florida's bullpen is their main weakness right now. They're better with Faedo and Singer on the mound than any of their relievers. So why are we so intent on giving them quick innings?


This was my main gripe about the first two games. Especially the first one when Faedo was throwing everything six feet off the plate and our guys were swinging and not coming anywhere close.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42635 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:12 pm to
It's baseball.
You ran into a pitcher that will go early in the draft on Friday night on a game that could have gone either way. That is hard to get back up from to come back out on Sat and respond.

They also saw a high first round pick in next year's draft on Sat.

This team was dead in the water on Sunday too and if not for home runs with runners on base they still would have lost. But that is how baseball works, LSU got off the canvas and was able to somehow win that game. PM almost blew it trying to get Bush some work but saving Gilbert was also important, without him at the end who knows what would have happened. Fla probably threw at the guys they hit which is typical O'Sullivan garbage and it cost him big time. Thank God Rivera is gone too. Can't stand him either.

You can criticize PM all you want and it is deserved especially when you leverage LSU for Texas in the offseason. But O'Sullivan has done less with more talent than any coach in the country.
Posted by bengalfan50
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
2467 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:55 pm to

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All the ranters here are making evaluations on our hitters based only on what they see in a game. Consider that the coaching staff sees every at bat at practice, at bats are taped & videos studied afterwards. Point being, CPM knows our batters & their capabilities & liabilities, based on what he sees every day. That he is an HOF coach speaks for itself. As compared to the experts here.


He see's and still can't fix it......good Less Miles defense.....oh but golly gee he won it all in 09'......he hired a trainee to replace a hitting coach but he is a friend.....
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9123 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 4:44 pm to
I think Jordan just took the DH spot at least for another 2 weeks, he was pretty damn clutch and we were beat without his bat without a doubt.

The whole team needs to be more disiplined though and there really isn't an argument to be made there. That doesn't necessarily mean taking pitches but instead swinging the bat with more smarts. Practice these situations and hopefully play a little more relaxed, they looked tight out there on offense.

Yes FL has great pitching but there really isn't an excuse sometimes you have to will your way to being more successful. Simply put I know they can be better. They could work on the bunt along with getting good jumps on the bases. All you have to look at is Bregman, he wasn't the fastest guy but his breaks were the best on the team. We are fast enough to be more successful stealing.

I have no doubt LSU will get better and I'm pretty sure Sunday will have something to do with our offense improving here going forward. Would be extremely satisfying to see them have a great weekend series on offense then carry it over into the season with consistency. We'll see
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124449 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 4:49 pm to
You should be a coach
Posted by RUKidding
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
1070 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 4:55 pm to
One out of three ain't so bad.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 4:55 pm to
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we were beat without his bat without a doubt.


Not really.
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